Friday, March 24, 2017

Rama Navami Festival Bangalore (Video)


Gopala Campu (by Srila Jiva Goswami) pt. 1



Gopala-Campu (by Srila Jiva Goswami)

First Campu 


Prathamam Puranam 


First Chapter Sri Goloka-rupa-nirupana 


Description of Sri Goloka 


1. 0 Sri Krsna, 0 Sri Krsna Caitanya, 0 Lord accompanied by Srila Rupa Goswami and Srila Sanatana Goswami. 0 Lord attained by Srila Gopal Bhatta Goswami and Srila Raghunatha dasa Goswami, 0 Lord dear to the residents of Vraja, please protect me! 

2. With a happy heart I have written this verse. Now I will explain it. With is that explanation. This verse means: Step by step I meditate on my worshipable Supreme Lord (istadeva), His devotees, and certain specific devotees. This verse has three meanings. I will begin by explaining the first meaning. This verse is in the anustup meter. The first word is prefaced by "Sri" (glorious). Although the other words are not prefaced by "Sri" , the "Sri" in the first word should be assumed to apply to the other words. Explanation of the Mangala carana 

3. In this verse "Sri Krsna" means, "0 greatest of all, 0 Lord named Sri Krsna." "Sri Krsna Caitanya" means "0 Lord glorious with all auspiciousness." "Sasanathana" means "accompanied by glorious Sri Sanatana Goswami". 'Rupaka" means "0 great saint named Rupa Goswami, 0 great saint whose feet I place on my head." "Gopala" means, "0 Sri Gopala Bhatta Goswami rich in learning and saintliness." "Raghunatha" means "0 Raghunatha dasa Goswami". "Aptavraja" means "0 devotee famous in Vraja for your great and perfect devotion, " or it may mean "Apta" means "0 saint like an ornament decorating the ears of the devotees", or it may also mean "0 leader of the devotees headed by Sri Bhugarbha Goswami." "Vallabha" means "0 Sri Vallabha, 0 my saintly father of whose feet I take shelter." Or, "Raghunathapta-vraja-vallabha" may mean "0 you who are dear to the followers of Sri Raghunatha." "Pahi mam" means "By giving me the shade of your lotus feet, please protect me." 

4. Now I will explain the second meaning of this verse. In this verse the word "Sri" means "Radha". She is called Sri because She is the first of all goddesses of fortune, as will be proved later in this book. The word following "Sri" is "Krsna", which is the name of Nanda's son, the secret Supreme Personality of Godhead. Thus the words "Sri-Krsna" mean "Krsna, who is accompanied by His internal potency named Radha." The derivation of the word Krsna is given in these words (Mahabharata, Udyoga-parva 71.4): krsir bhu-vacakah sabdo nas ca nirvrti-vacakah tayor aikyam param brahma krsna ity abhidhiyate "The word 'krs' is the attractive feature of the Lord's existence, and 'na' means spiritual pleasure. 

When the verb 'krs' is added to the affix 'na', it become Krsna which indicates the Absolute Truth." This verse indicates how the two syllables "krs" and "na" are joined to make the name Krsna. The word "bhu-vacakah" here refers to the way the verb "bhu" is thus changed into the noun "bhava"(being) by the agency of the kvip-pratyaya affix. As the verb "bhu" is thus changed to become "bhava" so the verb "krs" to attract becomes "akarsana" (attraction). Thus "krs" means "He who attracts the hearts of others." The words "tayor aikyam," mean "As two lovers join, so the two syllables "krs" and "na" (bliss) join. When united in this way they create the meaning "all-attractive bliss". " 

The words "param brahma" are explained in these famous words: naraktri param brahma "The Supreme Personality of Godhead has a humanlike form." The two syllables "krs" and "na" thus combine to become the name of Nanda's son. The words "ity abhidhiyate" mean "the power of the word is thus revealed." The Lord's nature is also described in the name "Caitanya", which means "all - pervading". 

The word "Rupaka" means "0 Lord whose form is the shelter of all" or it may also mean "0 Lord understood by the wise saints." The Lord's form is described in these words of Sri Gopala-tapani Upanisad: sac-cid-ananda-rupaya krsnayaklista-karine "I offer my respectful obeisances to Lord Krsna, who rescues the devotees from all distress, and whose form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss." The Lord's form is also described in these words from Brahma's prayers in SrimadBhagavatam (10.14.22): tvayy eva nitya-sukha-bodha-tanav anante "0 Lord, Your body is eternal and full of bliss and knowledge." 

The word "sa-sanatana-rupaka" means "0 Lord on whose form the devotees always (sanatana) gaze (rupaka), 0 Lord who always appear before the devotees, 0 Lord who appear before the devotees whose only treasure is devotion for You they keep in their hearts." Among the words "gopala raghunathapta vraja-vallabha" the word "gopala raghunathapta" means "0 Lord who are attained (apta) by the leaders (natha) of the small boys (raghu) that protect the cows (gopala)." 

The word "apta-vraja-vallabha" means "0 Lord dear to the glorious cowherd people of Vraja." "Gopala-raghunatha" may also be interpreted to mean, "0 Lord who are the master (natha) the gopas (gopala) worship and yearn to attain (raghu)." In the Amara-kosa Dictionary these definitions of the word "raghu" are given: trisv iste 'lpe laghuh "The word 'raghu' may mean 'three', 'desired', 'worshipped', or 'small'." 

Following these three different meanings one may accept many different interpretations of the vocative case word "gopala-raghunathapta," such as dear to Your multitude (vraja) of kinsmen (apta)." Implied in that interpretation is the thought, "0 Lord, Your glory is never perceived by outsiders." Krsna" the word "Sri" means "Sri Radha, the best of the Lord's beloveds". 

Krsna means "Krsna who enjoys charming pastimes with Her." "Krsna-Caitanya" means "0 bhakta-avatara (the Lord's incarnation as a devotee) named Krsna-Caitanya" and "0 same Supreme Personality of Godhead who descended to this world." "Sasanatana-rupaka" means "0 Lord who stays with Your two devotees Srila Rupa Gosvami and Srila Sanatan Gosvami." "Gopala-raghunathapta" means "0 lord attained by Your devotees Gopala Bhatta Gosvami and Raghunatha dasa Gosvami." "Vraja-vallabha" means "0 lord always dear to the residents of Vraja." "Pahi mam" means "Please protect me." About This Book The word "apta-vraja-vallabha" may also be interpreted to mean "0 Lord 5. Now I will explain the third meaning of this verse. In the word "Sri- 6. Now that the mangalacarana is explained, the purpose of this book is explained in the following words. 

The nectar conclusions I collected in the book Krsna-sandarbha are now tasted by the tongue of the poet's intelligence. souls will see is like a jewel set in gold. (uttara). Each of these campus is divided in three parts. I pray the saintly devotees may, as they wish, place their intelligence on these campus. devotees. disappeared from this world, the people of Gokula are even now present before the great souls. The Book Begins 7. 

I am the author of this poem. I am its heart. This book is two campus, a first campu (purva) and a concluding campu. I pray this book named Gopala-campu will please Lord Krsna and His devotees. The glorious forest named Vrndavana begins a great auspiciousness to the earth goddess. This forest has the power to deliver all living beings in all the worlds. The mere touch of its purifying breeze washes away all troubles. That touch opens the bolt on the door in the prison of the three vargas (economic development, sense gratification, and material piety) and it carries away the fragrance of impersonal liberation. 

With its great glories it unties the bonds of impersonal liberation. Although in other places the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not easily give the gift of devotional service, in the land of Vrndavana He easily gives it always. In his heart the demigod Brahma yearned to attain even a lowly birth in Vrndavana. He thought his contact with Vrndavana was the beginning of his own glorious good fortune. The ways of Vrndavan are very mysterious. 

They are like the poetic ornament virodha-alankara, where what seems a contradiction is resolved in the end. Even if their authors lack poetic skill, poems about Vrndavana are glorious. That is because in those poems is an awareness of what is truly important and glorious. To help the people of this world, blissful Lord Krsna, the son of Nanda, descends again and again to the realm of Vrndavana. In this way a great festival of bliss always fills Vrndavana. 

Srila Sukadeva Gosvami says Vrndavana is filled with wonderful bliss (Srimad Bhagavatam 10.11.36): vrndavanam govardhanam yamuna-pulinani ca viksyasid uttama priti rama-madhavayor nrpa "0 King Pariksit, when Rama and Krsna saw Vrndavana, Govardhana, and the banks of the river Yamuna, They both enjoyed great pleasure." 13. In Vrndavana is Govardhana Hill, which is glorified in these words: The Puranas call Lord Krsna by the name Gokulesvara (the master of Gokula). 

This confirms the truth that Gokula is Lord Krsna's abode. Gokula is also the abode of the surabhi cows. Govardhana Hill is the shelter of Krsna and His cows. It is also said: Manasa-ganga and Govardhana are considered two different places in the realm of the three worlds. However, I think they are the same place. They are the same flood of love for Lord Krsna that has entered this world. It is also said: The two lakes Radha-kunda and Syama-kunda are the lover's meeting of Sri Sri Radha Krsna. 

I think the sweet fragrances at those lakes are actually Sri Sri RadhaKrsna passionate embraces, the breezes are Radha-Krsna's passionate sighs and trembling, and the water seen in those lakes is Radha-Krsna's passionate love melted into nectar. About the Yamuna it is said: To one who simply bathes in her waters, the Yamuna gives the power to see Lord Krsna. To one who sees her, the Yamuna gives the sweetness of Lord Krsna's abode. 

Here is a guess about Yamuna's true identity: Is the Yamuna a single drop of perspiration from Lord Krsna's body? Is the Yamuna love for Lord Krsna, love that has assumed the form of a dark river? The Yamuna's banks manifest great bliss and love: Gazing on the Yamuna's shore, the wise devotees have a vision of Lord Krsna's nectar rasa-dance pastimes. 

Did the Yamuna sprinkle on her shores a divine elixir in the form of grains of sand? A banyan tree makes our hearts tremble: How can I describe the love a certain banyan tree feels for Lord Krsna? When Lord Krsna disappeared from this world, that tree thought, 'Let Govardhana Hill and the other places stay in this world in their partial expansions. I have no power to stay.' Then that tree also disappeared from this world. 

Ah! Look at the deep love Vrndavan forest feels: Sometimes Lord Krsna's forest becomes stunned like an motionless mountain. Sometimes that forest trembles, its leaves and petals moving. Suddenly pushing out many new sprouts, that forest sometimes stands with the hairs of its body erect in ecstasy. 

Why would Lord Krsna and His multitude (vraja) of associates not wish to appear in that land of Vrndavan? We see Their appearance in Vrndavana as very appropriate. Some pundits say the land of Vraja is named for the multitudes (vraja) of the Lords associates. In Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.5.18) it is said: "0 Maharaja Pariksit, the home of Nanda Maharaja is eternally the abode of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His transcendental qualities and is therefore always naturally endowed with the opulence of all wealth. 

Yet beginning from Lord Krsna's appearance there, it became the place for the pastimes of the goddess of fortune." 23. Following the Padma Purana's descriptions of the Lord's advent in this world, I will soon describe the Lord's entrance, kalpa after kalpa, into the land of Vrndavana, a delightful, beautiful, opulent land where the Lord killed many crooked demons with dangerous fangs. Because it is never touched by the material bodies or minds of the residents of the material world, because it is filled with kadamba trees and many other kinds of glorious trees and plants elaborately described in Varaha Purana and other scriptures, and because within its borders Lord Krsna enjoys many eternal nectar pastimes with Balarama, the gopas, and the surabhi cows, pastimes elaborate descriptions of which may be heard in Skanda Purana and other scriptures, it should be understood that the glory and beauty of Vrndavana has no limit. 

Indeed, Vrndavana is outside the realm of the material world. Vrndavana is described in these words by Lord Krsna Himself in these words from the Gautamiya Tantra: "Vrndavana is My delightful spiritual abode. When they die, the cows, birds, deer, animals, human beings, and demigods who reside in Vrndavana go to My eternal spiritual abode." "Many gopi girls also reside here in Vrndavana. Great yoginis, they eternally serve Me with devotion." 

"This forty mile forest of Vrndavan is My own transcendental form. Flowing with nectar, the Yamuna is the transcendental Susumna-cakra." "Manifesting spiritual forms, the demigods and sages stay in this abode of Vrndavana. I, the master of all the demigods, never leave this forest." "Yuga after yuga I appear in this abode, and then again I disappear. Material eyes have no power to see this glorious and delightful world of Vrndavana." 

The realm of Gokula, which is full of all glories and opulences, which, as we will describe later in this book by following the descriptions in Srimad Bhagavatam, is the place where the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is an ocean of mercy, after leaving His ocean abode, entered, and which is Lord Krsna's own abode and the abode of His cowherd people; And which is the place where, by entering and then leaving the waters of delightful Brahma Lake, and by revealing His Vaikuntha opulences to Akrura, and by accepting the prayers of the Vedas Personified, Lord Krsna revealed the truth of His human like pastimes in Vrndavana and filled His associates with wonder; And where even now the wise devotees take shelter and directly see the Supreme Lord's pastimes; And where, according to Hari-vamsa's description of Govindabhiseka (Krsna's coronation), King Indra came to understand that Krsna is the all-pervading Supreme Personality of Godhead, and which, is including its forests of Vrndavana and the surrounding area. 

Some say it is situated in the spiritual sky, far above the coverings of the material world, and where the devotees take shelter of the spiritual ground where Lord Krsna enjoyed many pastimes, and where Lord Krsna manifested His spiritual form, a form described in Brahma-samhita and other scriptures, is the abode where Lord Krsna enjoys many manifest and unmanifest pastimes, described in many scriptures. 

Hare Krishna Tune (Jamuna Jivana Video)


Wednesday, March 22, 2017

Baby - 9 months in 4 minutes (Video)


ISKCON Desire Tree Spokesman Investigated


[PADA: Apparently, ISKCON Desire Tree's Chaitanya Charan das is under internal GBC investigation for allegedly making outrageous comments in lectures. He is part of Jayapataka's / Dayaram's / GBC's Bangalore program and is a disciple of Radhanath. And he is part of the group that is suing Bangalore ISKCON for their idea, that we need to worship the pure devotee and not their debauchee pretend gurus.

Anyway, he has been allegedly charged with saying some things in a few lectures that would make it appear that Srila Prabhupada is making mistakes like an ordinary conditioned soul, thus acharyas are defective beings. An internal GBC committee investigation is under way to see if that is what he actually meant, and the leader of the investigation is Basu Ghosha das. 

Oh swell, so the same people who have (for the past 35 years) been promoting the idea that acharyas are often debauchees, are going to investigate -- themselves, for saying that acharyas are defective? Makes no sense? The leaders are saying acharyas are defective, and so we need to investigate the disciples, for saying the same thing? We have to investigate a child for swearing in Kindergarten, without investigating the parents, from whence the child learned the swear words?

Why is this party saying that acharyas are often illicit sex debauchees in the first place, and why is Basu ghosha promoting and supporting such a regime? Radhanath buried Kirtanananda in the holy dham, so its well known these people for the past 35 years are worshiping sexual predators, criminals and orchestrators of murders as their acharyas, never mind saying that acharyas are defective. This is very silly, the same people who are saying that acharyas are often deviants, fools, fallen souls, mistaken clowns, sexual predators, criminals etc. are now wondering why their disciples are preaching the same thing? 

Chaitanya Charan das is one of the bigger spokesman on the site ISKCON Desire Tree. Well, if you desire an acharya, how handy is that, they have a pile of sexual predators and crooks to hand off to you and your children to worship under their fabulous desire tree. If you desire a guru, they have illicit sex gurus, criminals, deviants, and / or the persons voted in by their illicit sex gurus like Radhanath.
   
Radhanath is clearly, albeit gradually, taking over the entire ISKCON agenda, now his photo is being plastered around Mayapura and etc. Wasn't he the main henchman of the Kirtanananda regime? Has the GBC learned nothing? Amazing, the same people who say that acharyas are often debauchees, are having to investigate a person, who says acharyas are defective conditioned souls? This is simply a pile of word juggling, you cannot investigate yourself for saying what you say all the time? If anything, Chaitanya Caran is the victim of the Basu Ghosha's program that promotes debauchees as their acharyas. 

Anyway, the people who say that Krishna's successors are often deviants are saying that so they can impugn Krishna. Krishna is a criminal rascal because His successors are criminal rascals. Yes, that is what this is all about from square one, the rascals want to make Krishna and His successors into rascals, to discourage people from worship of Krishna. 

This has gone on since the material world started. Unfortunately, the people who say that Krishna's successors are often crooks and debauchees will most likely have to spend another 50 trillion years in the material world, minimum, because no one is allowed to say that Krishna and His successors are rascals, without being punished severely. ys pd]

UPDATE March 22nd 2017: I was informed that currently there is IIAC investigation going on headed by Basu Gosh das, for the investigation and fair treatment of Caitanya Caran. IIAC investigation will be completed within 2-3 weeks. 

500 Bangalore Devotees Celebrate Chaitanya Jayanti

Monday, March 20, 2017

The False Version of Jaiva Dharma Being Cited (Again)


"We all originated in Krishna's leela or sport"

PADA: Once again some devotees are citing the (false and edited) Gaudiya Matha version of "Jaiva Dharma" -- that the souls originate in the tatastha region. OK as we have explained a number of times, this edition of Jaiva Dharma is not bona fide because Srila Prabhupada said it has been edited by his bogus God Brothers. Anyway, there is no such thing as the tatastha region, tatastha is us, the jeevas. Tatastha means the ability for the soul to be moving where he chooses to go, its not a place. 

We all originated with Krishna, in His leela or sport. Anyway, we hope people will review this topic again, because we have had quite a few discussions on this previously. ys pd  

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2015/12/origin-of-jeeva-soul-1.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2015/12/origins-of-jeeva-soul-pt2.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/01/uttama-sloka-ron-marinelli-says-god-is.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/09/where-does-soul-come-from-sri-prem.html

NT: The jiva is always with Krsna in love. This is the Reality. An Eternal Reality. Anything else is simply insignificant temporary and illusionary. From the knowledge of that sambandha tattva, we have learned that the jiva, having forgotten his eternal relation with Krsna, has fallen in to the sea of samsara . . .". -Sri Caitanya-siksamrtam, p.43.

Even in his unalloyed spiritual state, the jiva is infinitesimal. He is liable to undergo change of condition . . . The worldly course makes its appearance simultaneously with the jiva's loss of all recollection of the servitorship of Krsna". - Jaiva Dharma, Chapter One

"In his true nature, the jiva is the devoted servant of Krsna. The jivas, who have gone astray against that nature of theirs -- due to their seeking after their own pleasure--turned away from Krsna and, as such, became punishable". - Jaiva Dharma.

"Jiva is the proprietor of an eternal identity that is extremely esoteric and subtle". - Jaiva Dharma.

"This external energy of the Lord covers up the pure knowledge of the living entity's eternally existing with Him, but the covering is so constant that it appears that the conditioned soul is eternally ignorant." -- Srimad Bhagavatam, 2.5.19, purport.

PT Dasa: When these topics came while Srila Prabhupada was personally present with us he said the discussion is like crow and Tal fruit. Some say the Tal fruit fell by the crow landing on the branch, and others say the fruit was just about to fall the same exact moment the crow landed. This kind of discussion can go on eternally and I have personally seen at least for 40 yrs

PADA: That is why we have to stick with what Srila Prabhupada said: a) We were all originally in Krishna's leela or sport; b) We became envious of Krishna c) Thus we fell to the material world, d) We have to re-establish our lost connection to Krishna and GO BACK HOME to our original constitutional position, e) The God brothers who challenged this idea are tinged with Mayavada. Nuff said! That solves the whole issue. ys pd

V Dasa Right. The discussion is like crow and tal. But it shouldn't be like that amongst devotees who actually accept what Srila Prabhupada said. GM people claim they are Prabhupada's successors. Then why do they disagree with him? This is why we are having the discussion too. Because at this point, its about accepting Srila Prabhupada's instructions, and THAT is not like crow and tal talk.

CP Das: WHAT DOES IT SAY? Srila Prabhupada About the IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUE OF THE ORIGINAL POSITION OF THE LIVING ENTITY? IT IS NOT IMPORTANT OR IT IS VERY IMPORTANT? "- FROM THE STATUS OF PURE CONSCIOUSNESS, - THE FALSE EGO IS BORN - BECAUSE OF MISUSE OF INDEPENDENCE. - WE CANNOT ARGUE ABOUT WHY FALSE EGO ARISES FROM PURE CONSCIOUSNESS."
SB 3.26.23-24, Purport.

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-THE LIVING ENTITY EXIST IN THE NATURAL STATE OF KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS,
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-THE LIVING ENTITY EXIST IN THE NATURAL STATE OF KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS, -BUT HE HAS MARGINAL INDEPENDENCE, AND THIS ALLOWS HIM TO FORGET KRSNA.
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U Dasa: What a bunch of speculation... of course there is a conclusion. And it can easily be proven by sastra. Just that you don't want to listen. Just read Jaiva-dharma.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada told us not to read the Gaudiya Matha's version of the Jaiva Dharma, he said it had been edited by his bogus God brothers after 1936. Why does U dasa always do -- the exact opposite -- of what the acharya orders? Srila Prabhupada said that the God brothers did not agree with his back to Godhead idea, and these are probably the same brothers who edited these books. Srila Prabhupada said, they are tinged with mayavada for not understanding we were all with Krishna originally. The conclusion is simple, do not read books that were edited by persons tinged with mayavada!

Srila Prabhupada thus did not allow the Gaudiya Matha's version of Jaiva Dharma to be distributed in his ISKCON, nor did he ever say "here is the authorized version," rather he said we need to hear from him to understand all these issues. Nor has U Dasa shown us a quote where an authorized version has been approved by Srila Prabhupada. Nor has he shown us how God creates two tiered system of some souls starting with Krishna and some not, the Vatican's jeeva tattva. ys pd

PT Dasa: Very near Srila Prabhupadas last days with us in Vrindaban His Divine Grace expressed "I have given you everything,everything I have placed in my books there is no need for you to separately study the writings of Srila Bhaktiviode or Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana all their important conclusions I have placed in my books. " I am quoting Srila Prabhupada as I heard him say so far I have never heard any recording of this but I assure you all it was recorded

PADA: Srila Prabhupada specifically said the Gaudiya Matha version of Jaiva dharama is spurious. He told us not to distribute this version in his movement. And none of this explains how we all originated in Krishna's leela or sport? Nor does U dasa explain why he is saying some souls originate with Krishna and some do not, Vatican idea? Nor does he show us where his version of Jaiva dharma was approved by Srila Prabhupada?

U Dasa also seems to agree with us? -- Having forgotten our devotion and service to Sri Krsna, we are held as the captives of maya, and thus, in lieu of our original transcendental status, we are in this miserable situation." Right, having forgotten we were with Krishna, good, that is what we said the whole time.

Welcome aboard!

This is making some sense now, U Dasa is saying we all forgot our service to Sri Krishna, so if we forgot, we were once doing that service to Krishna. We are not taking this out of context, forgetting our service is only possible if we were once engaged in it. I cannot remember being in San Francisco, if I was never there?

U Dasa is arguing with his own shadow? He just said we forgot our original devotion and service to Krishna. How can we forget something that never existed? If I forget where my car is parked, that means, it never existed? To say we, the marginal living entities, came from an impersonal origin, is not the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada was very clear on this subject – “Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport” Letter to Madhudvisa Swam 1972

Srila Prabhupada – “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago.” – (Lecture on Bhagavad-gita on August 6, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada – These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha”. Letter to Jagadisa das, 1970

Srila Prabhupada – “As living spiritual souls we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere.” Original Hare Krsna album

Srila Prabhupada – ” So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krishna? Why not become Krishna?’ I immediately fall down.”. July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C

Srila Prabhupada – “Actually, you are not conditioned (nitya-baddha). You are thinking. Just like in the dream you are thinking that tiger is eating you. You were never eaten by tiger. There is no tiger. So we have to get out of this dream. (Lecture on Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 7.108–San Francisco, February 18, 1967)

Srila Prabhupada – “Originally everyone is nitya-siddha. nitya-siddha Krsna Bhakti ‘sadhya’ kabhu naya sravanadi-suddha-citte karaye udaya Every living entity originally nitya-siddha, “. Srimad-Bhagavatam Class 7.9.4- Mayapur, February 18, 1977

Devotee – “Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back”.

Srila Prabhupada – “No! There is possibility, but he does not come. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it again if you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead? Just like we are in renounced order of life. So we have renounced our family life after thinking something. Now, if somebody comes, “Swamiji, you take thousand millions of dollars and marry again and become a family man,” I’ll never become, because I have got my bad experience. I’ll never become. . . .”

Srila Prabhupada – “You are liberated. You are liberated. Simply just a cloud has covered you. Drive away the cloud. There is no question that you were ever. You are ever-liberated. That, the sky is always spiritual, but it is sometimes overcrowded with cloud, this Maya. This is called Maya”.

Srila Prabhupada – “Actually, you are not conditioned. You are thinking. Just like in the dream you are thinking that tiger is eating you. You were never eaten by tiger. There is no tiger”. Letter to Madhudvisa Swami 1972

It is important to understand that ALL marginal living entities ‘originally’ come from Goloka-Vrndavana and are ALWAYS in a perpetual state of uniqueness’ meaning we are forever fresh and youthful in our nitya-siddha body.

Such a spiritual body is ‘eternally’ endowed with a two-armed form like Krishna’s but can also appear as a four armed form in the Vaikunthas in the mood of servitude, or further appear as a flower, drop of rain, chair, etc regardless, the original form of the soul is two armed just like Krishna’s.

What makes things confusing to several is that some marginal living entities, who have manifested as their inferior secondary baddha-jiva state in the material creation, can stay in the material creation or mahat-tattva for what seems to be an almost eternity!

This means many baddha-jiva souls enter the Body of Maha-Vishnu or the impersonal Brahmajyoti at the dissolution of each mahat-tattva creation because of not being Krishna Conscious to awaken to their true nitya-siddha body in Goloka.

U Dasa says we all forgot our service to Krishna. How can we forget our service and devotion to Krishna, if it never existed? This is not making any sense even from logical point of view, he is fighting his own shadow? Anyway, we cannot rely on your version of Jaiva dharma because it was never approved by Srila Prabhupada. What we can rely on is, we all originated in Krishna's leela or sport, its that simple. ys pd

NT Dasa Even in his unalloyed spiritual state, the jiva is infinitesimal. He is liable to undergo change of condition . . . The worldly course makes its appearance simultaneously with the jiva's loss of all recollection of the servitorship of Krsna". - Jaiva Dharma

C Dasa: Does U dasa follow BV Puri?

NT Dasa: This is what I mean. Utilises, has to uphold the no-fall position because his GM Gurus say so. Otherwise, their Gurus would be revealed as ordinary people who make mistakes. It's all politics.
Actually,Srila Prabhupada reveals them as ordinary persons with 4 defects who are contaminated with this impersonal misinterpretation. Utilises,you yourself are selectively quoting The Thakur words in JD.

Utilises,the point is that you have a cognitive bias and are not viewing the issue objectively free from that GM bias. You understand prabhu?

C Dasa: Of course one must first be clear about THE ONLY MEANING OF THE VERB RETURN according to the dictionary, and not imagine any different meaning to the dictionary meaning.

PADA: BV Puri was a big cheer leader of Gopal Krishna swami and the GBC's guru program, along with other supporters from the Gaudiya Matha like Sridhara Maharaja. Srila Prabhupada said, among my God brothers no one is qualified to be acharya. Anyway, as we said earlier, Srila Prabhupada said their idea that we do not originate with Krishna is tinged with mayavada.

And their idea that conditioned souls can be acharyas is simply another defect. These Gaudiya Matha folks simply rubber stamped a pile of conditioned souls as acharyas, thus their acharyas have been falling down left, right and center, that means, they have no idea what is an acharya in the first place. They do not even know that when a conditioned soul acts as a diksha guru, he gets overwhelmed by the karma, which is basic ABC idea. ys pd

C Dasa: One never RETURNS means that we were in the material world. In no way means that we can not fall from Vaikuntha.This is not the basic meaning of the verb RETURN. Use this verb to mean this is completely ignoring the most basic meaning of the verb return.

The question is before coming to this material world where we were?

PADA: They already said we have forgot our original service to Krishna, they are spinning in contradictions .... Srila Prabhupada says: contradiction means mayavada ... There is also the idea of nitya mukta and nitya baddha, the souls are either eternally liberated or eternally conditioned. That means, the souls in the spiritual world are generally staying there, Srila Prabhupada 90 percent never leave. Gaura Govinda Maharaja was another person who confused the jeeva tattva issue, guru tattva issue, etc.

Anyway, U Dasa is confusing Krishna's expansion called Mahavishnu with Krishna. Srila Prabhupada says, -- the first form to appear within the material creation is Mahavishnu. We only originate from Mahavishnu's body AFTER we fall here. The jeevas do not originate from Mahavishnu originally, the conditioned souls are in His realm in the material universe AFTER THEY FALL, and when the universe is dissolved they are returned to His body, where they rest with Mahavishnu, and they come back out from Him at the next material creation.

Fine, but that now means U Dasa is saying the souls originate here in the material world, exactly what the Catholic church teaches. The souls that are coming from Mahavishnu are already in the material world because Mahavishnu is the creator of the material universes. And this is another problem, U Dasa already said we fell because we forgot serving Krishna. Fine!

Except being in the realm of Mahavishnu is not serving Krishna, its called the conditioned state of existence. We fell because we forgot Krishna, but we were already in the material world with Mahavishnu? Ulises is mixing apples and oranges, again. No, we were in the realm of Krishna, we wanted to forget Krishna, and we then fell here, to the realm of Mahavishnu.

We have already read what the acharya has said about this topic, he simply does not agree with your theories that Mahavishnu is the source of the jeevas, and that Krishna starts out his children un-equally. Srila Prabhupada also said, there is no bona fide edition of Jaiva dharma now available, you have not proven otherwise.

Of course, even in the version you yourself cited, you cited that we have fallen due to forgetting Krishna, which means you are going around in a big circle of confusion. You also failed to explain how we can forget something we never had knowledge of. You forgot to explain how come -- when these GM God brothers (ok folks like BV Puri) complained about the Back to Godhead idea, Srila Prabhupada said they are tinged with mayavada.

You have not provided any quote where Srila Prabhupada said any current version of Jaiva Dharma and its commentaries are bona fide. Srila Prabhupada also said gurus are not appointed, or voted in, and BV Puri helped promote the GBC's gurus like Gopal Krishna and he said we were wrong to promote Srila Prabhupada as the diksha guru, and we hate to have to tell you the odious history of how that theory brought down the GM and ISKCON and created a huge sahajiya cult problem. BV Puri thus supported the theory that conditioned souls can be worshiped as acharyas, which is not found in any shastra anywhere. In sum, your guru tattva, jeeva tattva, and not doubt other tattvas, are contaminated.

First of all, you have no proof that is what Srila Bhaktivinode actually said or intended because you have no verified shastra or commentaries on such shastra. You have also said that (A) we forgot Krishna, and (B) we originated with Mahavishnu, which means, your Krishna tattva is totally scrambled and not authentic. Anyone who juxtaposes Krishna with His Mahavishnu expansions in the material world has not even understood the ABC principles of Krishna and His incarnations. Srila Prabhupada says we originated in Krishna's lila or sport, you say this is Mahavishnu, you have everything mixed up. Krishna's leela is not Mahavishnu's, which is known to the most ABC level of bhaktas under Srila Prabhupada's direction.

You also have no explanation for why BV Puri supported conditioned souls as gurus, ... because there is none. A sober devotee knows that Krishna's leela or sport is not Mahavishnu's pastimes, that is a separate function, creating the material world, this has nothing to do with Krishna's leela or sport in the spiritual world. No, you have not shown is any quote to support that your version of Jaiva Dharma is authentic, and the way you have everything else scrambled, its no wonder, you are not reading authentic materials or you would not have all of these things so badly confused. Mahavishnu is creating the material world, for you to say that is our origin means, you are simply spouting the same idea as the Catholic Church, we originated here. We are not members of that organization? ys pd

V Dasa: Superexcellent

C Dasa: MEANING OF SPECIFICALLY TO FORGET A PERSON,TO FORGET SOMEONE:
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-TO LOSE THE DEAL OR AFFECTION WITH A PERSON

NT Dasa Bhagavad-gita (Bg. 8.18-19): "When Brahma's day is manifest, this multitude of living entities comes into being, and at the arrival of Brahma's night they are all annihilated." (Bg. 8.18)
Not from Maha Vishnu when He creates the material world. As said before, this "From Maha-Vishnu theory" is just wishful thinking. "

PADA: Yes, the Mahavishnu expansion takes care of the fallen jeevas who wanted to forget Krishna, its not the original status of the jeevas. Even U Dasa admits the jeevas who fell here wanted to forget Krishna. Of course this begs the question, how could the jeevas forget their relationship with Krishna, if this relationship did not exist previously?

And if no one can choose to NOT serve Krishna in the spiritual world, isn't that a robot zombie land? This also makes no sense, that the jeevas in the spiritual world have no ability to choose whether to serve or not to serve. This erases their independence. The jeevas there are not robot zombies, they are given the choice to either serve or not to serve, and some choose not to serve. Then again we have mixed servants, like the demigods, they wanted to serve Krishna and also enjoy materially, so their status is all a result of their independent desires.

We have to come to the point of recognizing that everyone is placed wherever they are by their desires and actions, its not that some people are placed in heaven and some are placed here by some whimsical process, its all going on exactly as per the desires of the jeevas. Unless we can understand this point clearly, it will be harder to desire the right thing. This is why Srila Prabhupada emphasized this point, that we are where we are by our desires, because this gives us an impetus to control and focus those desires. Its part of the process of returning home, back to God.

The "no fall" people make it look like there is no independent desires for the jeevas, nope, there is, and every being has their position as a result of those desires. Krishna gives us a particular spiritual body at the start of our existence to suggest to us what He would like us to do, but its not a fixed robot situation, we are allowed to decide if we want to perform that service, or not, because otherwise the whole thing would be mechanical robots. If Krishna starts off some people in a no fall post, and some of us in a possible fall post, that makes Him biased. He isn't, He loves all jeevas equally. ys pd

Temples and Deities of Vrndavana (Video)


Sunday, March 19, 2017

Sri Srivasa Pandita avirbhava tithi [appearance day]



Sri Srivasa Pandita avirbhava tithi [appearance day]

Srila Prabhupada explains the glories or Srivasa Thakura

After this incident the Lord began to preach and propagate His Bhagavata-dharma, or sankirtana movement, more vigorously, and whoever stood against this propagation of the yuga-dharma, or duty of the age, was properly punished by various types of chastisement. Two brahmana gentlemen named Capala and Gopala, who also happened to be maternal uncles of the Lord, were inflicted with leprosy by way of chastisement, and later, when they were repentant, they were accepted by the Lord. In the course of His preaching work, He used to send daily all His followers, including Srila Nityananda Prabhu and Thakura Haridasa, two chief whips of His party, from door to door to preach the Srimad-Bhagavatam All of Navadvipa was surcharged with His sankirtana movement, and His headquarters were situated at the house of Srivasa Thakura and Sri Advaita Prabhu, two of His chief householder disciples. 


These two learned heads of the brahmana community were the most ardent supporters of Lord Caitanya's movement. Sri Advaita Prabhu was the chief cause for the advent of the Lord. When Advaita Prabhu saw that the total human society was full of materialistic activities and devoid of devotional service, which alone could save mankind from the threefold miseries of material existence, He, out of His causeless compassion for the age-worn human society, prayed fervently for the incarnation of the Lord and continually worshiped the Lord with water of the Ganges and leaves of the holy tulasi tree. As far as preaching work in the sankirtana movement was concerned, everyone was expected to do his daily share according to the order of the Lord. 

Srimad Bhgavatam Introduction

srivasa pandita, ara sri-rama pandita
dui bhai--dui sakha, jagate vidita

SYNONYMS

srivasa pandita—of the name Srivasa Pandita; ara—and; sri-rama pandita—of the name Sri Rama Pandita; dui bhai—two brothers; dui sakha—two branches; jagate—in the world; vidita—well known.

TRANSLATION

The two brothers Srivasa Pandita and Sri Rama Pandita started two branches that are well known in the world.

PURPORT

In the Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika, verse 90, Srivasa Pandita (Srivasa Ṭhakura) is described as an incarnation of Narada Muni, and Sri RamaPandita, his younger brother, is said to be an incarnation of Parvata Muni, a great friend of Narada's. Srivasa Pandita's wife, Malini, is celebrated as an incarnation of the nurse Ambika, who fed Lord Krsna with her breast milk, and as already noted, his niece Narayani, the mother of Ṭhakura Vrndavana dasa, the author of Sri Caitanya-bhagavata, was the sister of Ambika in krsna-lila. We also understand from the description of Sri Caitanya-bhagavata that after Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's acceptance of the sannyasa order, Srivasa Pandita left Navadvīpa, possibly because of feelings of separation, and domiciled at Kumarahatta / Sri Caitanya caritamrta Adi Lila 10.8.

Dhruva Maharaja was given a specific arrow made by Lord Narayana Himself, and he now fixed it upon his bow to finish the illusory atmosphere created by the Yaksas. As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā (7.14), mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te. Without Narayana, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, no one is able to overcome the action of the illusory energy. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has also given us a nice weapon for this age, as stated in the Bhagavatam: sangopangastra—in this age, the narayanastra, or weapon to drive away maya, is the chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra in pursuance of the associates of Lord Caitanya, such as Advaita Prabhu, Nityananda, Gadadhara and Srivasa. 

Srimad Bhgavatam 4.11.1

bhagavanera bhakta yata srivasa pradhana
tan'-sabhara pada-padme sahasra pranama
SYNONYMS
bhagavanera—of the Supreme Personality of Godhead; bhakta—the devotees; yata—as many (as there are); srivasa pradhana—headed by Sri Srivasa; tan'-sabhara—of all of them; pada-padme—unto the lotus feet; sahasra—thousands; pranama—respectful obeisances.
TRANSLATION
There are innumerable devotees of the Lord, of whom Srivasa Ṭhakura is the foremost. I offer my respectful obeisances thousands of times unto their lotus feet. Sri Caitanya Caritarmta Adi-Lila 1.38
krsna-varnam tvisakrsnam
sangopangastra-parsadam
yajnaih sankirtana-prayair
yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ

SYNONYMS

krsna-varnam—repeating the syllables krs-na; tvisa—with a luster; akrsnam—not black (golden); sa-anga—along with associates; upanga—servitors; astra—weapons; parsadam—confidential companions; yajnaih—by sacrifice; sankirtana-prayaih—consisting chiefly of congregational chanting; yajanti—they worship; hi—certainly; su-medhasah—intelligent persons.
TRANSLATION
"In the Age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krsna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krsna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions."
PURPORT
This text is from Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.5.32). Srila Jiva Gosvami has explained this verse in his commentary on the Bhagavatam, known as the Krama-sandarbha, wherein he says that Lord Krsna also appears with a golden complexion. That golden Lord Krsna is Lord Caitanya, who is worshiped by intelligent men in this age. That is confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam by Garga Muni, who said that although the child Krsna was blackish, He also appears in three other colors-red, white and yellow. He exhibited His white and red complexions in the Satya and Treta ages respectively. He did not exhibit the remaining color, yellow-gold, until He appeared as Lord Caitanya, who is known as Gaura Hari.
Srila Jiva Gosvami explains that krsna-varnam means Sri Krsna Caitanya. Krsna-varna and Krsna Caitanya are equivalent. The name Krsna appears with both Lord Krsna and Lord Caitanya Krsna. Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, but He always engages in describing Krsna and thus enjoys transcendental bliss by chanting and remembering His name and form. Lord Krsna Himself appears as Lord Caitanya to preach the highest gospel.
Lord Caitanya always chants the holy name of Krsna and describes it also, and because He is Krsna Himself, whoever meets Him will automatically chant the holy name of Krsna and later describe it to others. He injects one with transcendental Krsna consciousness, which merges the chanter in transcendental bliss. In all respects, therefore, He appears before everyone as Kṛṣṇa, either by personality or by sound. Simply by seeing Lord Caitanya one at once remembers Lord Krsna.
One may therefore accept Him as visnu-tattva. In other words, Lord Caitanya is Lord Krsna Himself.
Sangopangastra-parsadam further indicates that Lord Caitanya is Lord Krsna. His body is always decorated with ornaments of sandalwood and with sandalwood paste. By His superexcellent beauty He subdues all the people of the age. In other descents the Lord sometimes used weapons to defeat the demoniac, but in this age the Lord subdues them with His all-attractive figure as Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Srila Jiva Gosvami explains that His beauty is His astra, or weapon, to subdue the demons. Because He is all-attractive, it is to be understood that all the demigods lived with Him as His companions. 

His acts were uncommon and His associates wonderful. When He propagated the sankirtana movement, He attracted many great scholars and acaryas, especially in Bengal and Orissa. Lord Caitanya is always accompanied by His best associates like Lord Nityananda, Advaita, Gadadhara and Srivasa.
Srila Jiva Gosvami cites a verse from the Vedic literature which says that there is no necessity of performing sacrificial demonstrations or ceremonial functions. He comments that instead of engaging in such external, pompous exhibitions, all people, regardless of caste, color or creed, can assemble together and chant Hare Krsna to worship Lord Caitanya. Krsna-varnam tvisakrsnam indicates that prominence should be given to the name of Krsna. Lord Caitanya taught Krsna consciousness and chanted the name of Krsna. 

Therefore, to worship Lord Caitanya, everyone should together chant the maha-mantra-Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare Hare Rama, HareRama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. To propagate worship in churches, temples or mosques is not possible, because people have lost interest in that. But anywhere and everywhere, people can chant Hare Krsna. Thus worshiping Lord Caitanya, they can perform the highest activity and fulfill the highest religious purpose of satisfying the Supreme Lord.
Srila Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya, a famous disciple of Lord Caitanya, said, "The principle of transcendental devotional service having been lost, Sri Krsna Caitanya has appeared to deliver again the process of devotion. He is so kind that He is distributing love of Kṛṣṇa. Everyone should be attracted more and more to His lotus feet, as humming bees are attracted to a lotus flower." 

Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Adi Lila 3.62

srivasadi parisada sainya sange lana
dui sena-pati bule kirtana kariya
SYNONYMS
śrīvāsa-ādi—Śrīvāsa and others; pāriṣada—associates; sainya—soldiers; saṅge—along with; lañā—taking; dui—two; senā-pati—captains; bule—travel; kīrtana kariyā—chanting the holy name.
TRANSLATION
These two captains, with Their soldiers such as Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura, travel everywhere, chanting the holy name of the Lord.  

Sri Caitanya-Caritamrta Adi-Lila 4. 75
guru-varga,--nityānanda, advaita ācārya
śrīvāsādi, āra yata--laghu, sama, ārya
sabe pāriṣada, sabe līlāra sahāya
sabā lañā nija-kārya sādhe gaura-rāya

SYNONYMS

guru-varga—elders; nityānanda—Lord Nityānanda; advaita ācārya—and Advaita Ācārya; śrīvāsa-ādi—Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura and others; āra—others; yata—all; laghu, sama, ārya—junior, equal or superior; sabe—everyone; pāriṣada—associates; sabe—everyone; līlāra sahāya—helpers in the pastimes; sabā lañā—taking all of them; nija-kārya—His own aims; sādhe—executes; gaura-rāya—Lord Śrī CaitanyaMahāprabhu.
TRANSLATION
His elders such as Lord Nityānanda, Advaita Ācārya and Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura, as well as His other devotees-whether His juniors, equals or superiors-are all His associates who help Him in His pastimes. Lord Gaurāṅga fulfills His aims with their help. Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Adi-Lila 5. 144-145
pañca-tattva avatīrṇa caitanyera saṅge
pañca-tattva lañā karena saṅkīrtana raṅge
SYNONYMS

pañca-tattva—these five tattvas; avatīrṇa—advented; caitanyera—with Caitanya Mahāprabhu; saṅge—in company with; pañca-tattva—the same five subjects; lañā—taking with Himself; karena—He does; saṅkīrtana—the saṅkīrtana movement; raṅge—in great pleasure.
TRANSLATION
These five tattvas incarnate with Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and thus the Lord executes His saṅkīrtana movement with great pleasure.
PURPORT
In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam there is the following statement regarding Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu:

kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇaṁ
sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam
yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair
yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ

"In the Age of Kali, people who are endowed with sufficient intelligence will worship the Lord, who is accompanied by His associates, by performance of saṅkīrtana-yajña." (Bhāg. 11.5.32) Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is always accompanied by His plenary expansion Śrī NityānandaPrabhu, His incarnation Śrī Advaita Prabhu, His internal potency Śrī Gadādhara Prabhu and His marginal potency Śrīvāsa Prabhu. He is in the midst of them as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. One should know that Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is always accompanied by these other tattvas. 

Therefore our obeisances to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu are complete when we say śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu -ityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. As preachers of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, we first offer our obeisances to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu by chanting this Pañca-tattva mantra; then we say Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare Hare Rāma, HareRāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. 

There are ten offenses in the chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, but these are not considered in the chanting of the Pañca-tattva mantra, namely, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is known as mahā-vadānyāvatāra, the most magnanimous incarnation, for He does not consider the offenses of the fallen souls. 

Thus to derive the full benefit of the chanting of the mahā-mantra (Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare), we must first take shelter of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, learn the Pañca-tattva mahā-mantra, and then chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. That will be very effective.
Taking advantage of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, many unscrupulous devotees manufacture a mahā-mantra of their own. Sometimes they sing, bhaja nitāi gaura rādhe śyāma hare kṛṣṇa hare rāma or śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda hare kṛṣṇa hare rāma śrī-rādhe govinda.Actually, however, one should chant the names of the full Pañca-tattva (śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda) and then the sixteen words Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare, but these unscrupulous, less intelligent men confuse the entire process. 

Of course, since they are also devotees they can express their feelings in that way, but the method prescribed by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's pure devotees is to chant first the full Pañca-tattva mantraand then chant the mahā-mantra-Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. Sri Caitanya Caritarmta Adi Lila 7.4

asyaartho vivrtas tair yah
sa sankshipyaa vilikhyate
bhakta-rupo gaurachandro
yato 'sau nandanandanah

bhakta-swarupo nityanando
vraje yah sri-halayudhah
bhaktaavatara acaryo
'dvaito yah sri-sadaasivah

bhaktaakhyaah srinivaasaadyaa
yatas te bhakta-rupinah
bhakta-shaktir dvi jaagranyah
sri-gadaadhara-panditah

"I shall now summarily explain the meaning of these words. In this Pancha-tattwa, the bhakta-rupa (form of a devotee) is Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, who formerly appeared as Sri Krishna, the son of Nanda Maharaj. The bhakta-swarupa (devotional incarnation) is Lord Nityananda, who formerly appeared in Vrajabhumi as Lord Balarama. The bhaktaavatara (devotional manifestation) is Lord Advaita Acarya, who is not different from Sadaashiva. The bhataakhya (pure devotee) is Srinivasa and other great devotees as well. The bhakta-shakti (devotional energy) is Gadadhara Pandita, the foremost of brahmanas." (Gaura Ganodesh Dipika 11.)

sri-visvambharaadvaita-
nityanandaavadhutahah
atra trayah samunneyaa
vighraha prabhavaash ca te

eko mahaaprabhur jneyah
sri-caitanya dayaambudhih
prabhu dvau sri-yutau nityaa-
nandaadvaitau mahaashayau

goswaamino vighrash ca
te dvi jaash ca gadaadharah
pancha-tattwaatmaka ete
srinivaasas ca panditah

"Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nityananda Avadhuta, and Lord Advaita, are all incarnations of the supremly exalted Personality of Godhead, and They are all known by the title Prabhu (Master). Among Them, Lord Chaitanya, Who is an ocean of mercy, is known as Mahaprabhu (The Great Master), and the great personalities Lord Nityananda and Lord Advaita are known only as Prabhu (Master). All three are also known as Goswami (Master of the Senses). Gadaadhara is called by the title Dvija (Brahmana, and Srinivaasa is called by the title Pandita (Learned Scholar). These are the titles of the members of the Pancha-tattwa." (Gaura Ganodesha Dipika 13.)

"O my Lord Gaurahari, You are the abode of auspiciousness which is as beautiful as the kirtana of Krsna. You are the ocean of elegance, bestower of constant flow of devotion and mountain of love which is as bright as gold. Your beautiful features give soothing relief to the eyes of every living being and you are mankind's salvation from all kinds of misfortune. You are the center of the Lila Vilasa, and the life of the devotees. Be kind to me." (Bhakti-ratnakara. KJA1.)

"O my Prabhu, Sri Gopala Bhatta, the bee at the lotus like feet of Sri Gaura. You are the sun which destroys the darkness of illusion, the ocean of kindness and the greatest of all the brahmanas. You are the son of Sri Venkata Bhatta and a valuable ornament of divine love and devotion. You are the destroyer of worldly miseries and a resort of happiness to the misery stricken people. O Lord save me." (Bhakti-ratnakara. KJA.2.)

"O my Prabhu, Srila Gopala Bhatta, a bee at the lotus like feet of Mahaprabhu. You are the most skillful devotee of the Lord. O my Prabhu Srinivasa, whose complexion is as golden as Sri Sacinandana, you are the king amongst all the brahmanas. Please bless me." (Bhakti-ratnakara. KJA3.)

"I constantly worship the companions of Srinivasa Prabhu who is like the wishing tree of devotional love of Sri Krsna Caitanya Candra." (Bhakti-ratnakara. KJA4.)

"My dear listeners, please repeatedly and joyfully hear the Bhaktiratnakara which is the life of all Vaisnavas and the destroyer of all miseries and misfortunes." (Bhakti-ratnakara. KJA5.)

"Sri Gadadhara is expansion Radharani and Srinivasa is the expansion of Narada Muni, or in other words they are the internal and the devotional energy respectively." (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad. Letter 27th May 1970.)

srivas-pandito dhimaan
yah pura narado munih
purvataakhyo muni-varo
ya aasin narada-priyah
sa raama-panditah srimams
tat-kanistha-sahaodarah

"Intelligent Srivaasa Pandita had previously been Narada Muni, the best of the sages. Srivaasa's younger brother, Sriman Rama Pandita, had previously been Narada's close friend Parvata Muni" (Gaura Ganodesh Dipika 90.)

Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura, the Vyasadeva of Sri Gaurasundara's pastimes, has sung the praises of Srivasa Pandita in this way:

"It was in Srivasa Pandita's house that Sri Caitanya enacted His pastimes of sankirtana. Those four brothers (Srivasa, Sri Rama, Sripati and Srinidhi) were continuously engaged in singing the names of Sri Krsna. They worshipped Sri Krsna and bathed in the Ganges thrice daily."

These four brothers previously lived in the district of Sri Hatta. Later on they came to reside on the banks of the Ganges. There they regularly used to attend the assembly of devotees who gathered at Sri Advaita Acarya's house to hear the Srimad Bhagavatam and engage in congregational chanting of the Holy Names. Gradually the brothers became very close friends of Sri Jagannatha Misra, with whom they would chant and listen to the Bhagavatam.
In all matters Srivasa was the leader of the four brothers. By the strength of his devotion, he could understand that Sri Krsna was going to appear in the house of Jagannatha Misra.
Srivasa Pandits's wife's name was Sri Malinidevi. She was a very close friend of Sri Sacidevi and was always very helpful to her.

Srila Prabhupada desccribes the maha-prakasha at Srivasa Thakuras house

śrī-murāri gupta śākhā--premera bhāṇḍāra
prabhura hṛdaya drave śuni' dainya yāṅra

SYNONYMS

śrī-murāri gupta—of the name Śrī Murāri Gupta; śākhā—branch; premera—of love of Godhead; bhāṇḍāra—store; prabhura—of the Lord; hṛdaya—the heart; drave—melts; śuni'-hearing; dainya—humility; yāṅra—of whom.

TRANSLATION

Murāri Gupta, the twenty-first branch of the tree of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, was a storehouse of love of Godhead. His great humility and meekness melted the heart of Lord Caitanya.

PURPORT

Śrī Murāri Gupta wrote a book called Śrī Caitanya-carita. He belonged to a vaidya physician family of Śrīhaṭṭa, the paternal home of Lord Caitanya, and later became a resident of Navadvīpa. He was among the elders of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Lord Caitanya exhibited His Varāha form in the house of Murāri Gupta, as described in the Caitanya-bhāgavata, Madhya-līlā, Third Chapter. When Śrī CaitanyaMahāprabhu exhibited His mahā-prakāśa form, He appeared before Murāri Gupta as Lord Rāmacandra. 

When Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu andNityānanda Prabhu were sitting together in the house of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura, Murāri Gupta first offered his respects to Lord Caitanya and then to Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu. Nityānanda Prabhu, however, was older than Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and therefore Lord Caitanya remarked that Murāri Gupta had violated social etiquette, for he should have first shown respect to Nityānanda Prabhu and then to Him. In this way, by the grace of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Murāri Gupta was informed about the position of Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, and the next day he offered obeisances first to Lord Nityānanda and then to Lord Caitanya. 

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu gave chewed pan, or betel nut, to Murāri Gupta. Once Śivānanda Sena offered food to Lord Caitanya that had been cooked with excessive ghee, and the next day the Lord became sick and went to Murāri Gupta for treatment. Lord Caitanya accepted some water from the waterpot of Murāri Gupta, and thus He was cured. The natural remedy for indigestion is to drink a little water, and since Murāri Gupta was a physician, he gave the Lord some drinking water and cured Him.

When Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared in the house of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura in His Caturbhuja mūrti, Murāri Gupta became His carrier in the form of Garuḍa, and in these pastimes of ecstasy the Lord then got up on his back. It was the desire of Murāri Gupta to leave his body before the disappearance of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, but the Lord forbade him to do so. This is described in Caitanya-bhagāvata,Madhya-līlā, Chapter Twenty. When Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu one day appeared in ecstasy as the Varāha mūrti, Murāri Gupta offered Him prayers. He was a great devotee of Lord Rāmacandra, and his staunch devotion is vividly described in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Madhya-līlā,Fifteenth Chapter, verses 137 through 157. Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Adim Lila 10.49

prabhura abhiṣeka tabe karila śrīvāsa
khāṭe vasi' prabhu kailā aiśvarya prakāśa

SYNONYMS

prabhura—of the Lord; abhiṣeka—worship; tabe—after that; karila—did; śrīvāsa—of the name Śrīvāsa; khāṭe—on the cot; vasi'-sitting;prabhu—Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu; kailā—did; aiśvarya—opulence; prakāśa—manifestation.

TRANSLATION

Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura then worshiped Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu by the process of abhiṣeka. Sitting on a cot, the Lord exhibited transcendental opulence.

PURPORT

Abhiṣeka is a special function for the installation of the Deity. In this ceremony the Deity is bathed with milk and water and then worshiped and given a change of dress. This abhiṣeka function was especially observed at the house of Śrīvāsa. All the devotees, according to their means, worshiped the Lord with all kinds of paraphernalia, and the Lord gave benedictions to each devotee according to his desire, Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Adi Lila 17.11

TEXT 18
tabe sapta-prahara chila prabhu bhavavese
yatha tatha bhakta-gana dekhila visese

SYNONYMS

tabe—thereafter; sapta-prahara—twenty-one hours; chila—remained; prabhu—the Lord; bhava-avese—in ecstasy; yatha—anywhere; tatha—everywhere; bhakta-gana—the devotees; dekhila—saw; visese—specifically.

TRANSLATION

After this incident, the Lord remained in an ecstatic position for twenty-one hours, and all the devotees saw His specific pastimes.

PURPORT

In the Deity's room there must be a bed for the Deity behind the Deity's throne. (This system should immediately be introduced in all our centers. It does not matter whether the bed is big or small; it should be of a size the Deity room can conveniently accommodate, but there must be at least a small bed.) One day in the house of Srivasa Thakura, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu sat down on the bed of Visnu, and all the devotees worshiped Him with the Vedic mantras of the Purusa-sukta, beginning with sahasra-sirsa puruṣah sahasraksahsahasra-pat. This veda-stuti should also be introduced, if possible, for installations of Deities. While bathing the Deity, all the priests and devotees must chant this Puruṣa-sukta and offer the appropriate paraphernalia for worshiping the Deity, such as flowers, fruits, incense, arati paraphernalia, naivedya, vastra and ornaments. 

All the devotees worshiped Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu in this way, and the Lord remained in ecstasy for seven praharas, or twenty-one hours. He took this opportunity to show the devotees that He is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, who is the source of all other incarnations, as confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita (10.8): aham sarvasyaprabhavo mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate. All the different forms of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, or visnu-tattva, emanate from the body of Lord Krsna. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu exposed all the private desires of the devotees, and thus all of them became fully confident that Lord Caitanya is the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Some devotees call this exhibition of ecstasy by the Lord sata-prahariya bhava, or "the ecstasy of twenty-one hours," and others call it mahabhava-prakasa or maha-prakasa. There are other descriptions of this sata-prahariya bhava in the Caitanya-bhavagata, Chapter Nine, which mentions that Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu blessed a maidservant named Duhkhi with the name Sukhi. He called for Kholaveca Sridhara, and showed him His maha-prakasa. Then He called for Murari Gupta and showed him His feature as Lord Ramacandra. He offered His blessings to Haridasa Thakura, and at this time He also asked Advaita Prabhu to explain the Bhagavad-gita as it is (gitara satya-patha) and showed special favor to Mukunda. Sri caitanya caritamrta 17.18

Hindutva Agenda Moving Ahead in India

Protest New York Temple Sale (Today)

Despite the fact that the GBC body has disapproved the sale of the Brooklyn Temple the management has attempted to secretly call for a vote towards selling the temple. The vote will take place on Sunday March 19 2017 from 2 pm. All NYC devotees are being asked to turn up to vote / support the position of the GBC body, to not allow the sale. 

Walk in with you phone charged so you can take pictures for evidence.

PADA: Any sort of movement on this issue, and / or photos or videos, should be reported to us @ angel108b@yahoo.com

Saturday, March 18, 2017

Sri Vrnda Devi Astakam (Visvanath Chakravarti Thakura)


Sri Vrinda-devi Ashtakam

Eight Prayers Glorifying Sri Vrinda-devi
by Srila Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakura


VERSE ONE

gangeya-campeya-tadid-vinindi-
rocih-pravaha-snapitatma-vrndeh!
bandhuka-bandhu-dhyuti-divya-vasi,
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam


Oh Vrinda! You are adorned with an extremely brilliant transcendental dress which is as red as a bandhuka flower. By your own supremely beautiful bodily luster, you put to shame the combined effulgence of pure gold, champaka flowers and lightning bolts. And also, by that same luster of yours, you are continuously bathing your own personal associates, namely all the moving and non-moving residents of the Vrindavan forest. We therefore offer our respectful obeisances unto your divine lotus feet.

VERSE TWO

bimbarharoditvara-manda-hasya-
nesagra-mukta-dyuti-dipitasye!
vicitra-ratnabharanasriyadhye!
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Oh Vrinda! The Countenance of your face is especially radiant, being decorated by your gentle sweet smile (which has sprouted from your reddish lips resembling bimba fruits), as well as by being embellished with your pearl nose ornament. You are also endowed with loveliness by your body being decorated with multifarious, wonderfully jewelled ornaments. We therefore prostrate ourselves at your beautiful lotus feet.

VERSE THREE

samasta-vaikuntha-siromanau sri
krsnasya,vrndavana-dhanya-dhamni
dattadhikare! vrsabhanu-putrya
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Oh Vrinda! The supremely pure abode of Sri Krishna known as Sri Vrindavan-dhama, which is the crest jewel amongst all the planets of the spiritual sky, is presided over by the charming daughter of King Vrishabhanu, Sri Radhika. But She has awarded YOU with the power and authority to maintain this divine realm as your service to Her. This is why we offerer most heartfelt obeisances unto your beautiful lotus-feet.

VERSE FOUR

tvadajnaya pallava-puspa-bhrnga-mrgadibhir madhava-keli-kunjah
madhvadibhir bhanti vibhusyamana
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Oh Vrinda! All the multitudes of Lord Madhava's love-sporting bowers become supremely beautified by being decorated under your direction with fresh leaves, sprouts, flowers, bees, deer, peacocks, talking parrots, all types of animals and birds, as well as with wonderful seasons headed by Spring. We therefore offer our respectful obeisances unto your divine lotus feet.

VERSE FIVE

tvadiya-dutyena nikunja-yuno-
ratyutkayoh keli-vilasa-siddhih
tvat-saubhagam kena nirucyatam tad
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Oh Vrinda! By your expertly intelligent service as a messenger for the Divinely Amorous Couple of the Bower, Their transcendental love-sports thereby become successfully fulfilled. Who in this world could possibly even speak of your great fortune? We therefore must simply bow down before your beautiful lotus feet.

VERSE SIX

rasabhilaso vasatis ca vrndi-
vane tvadisanghri-saroja-seva
labhya ca pumsam krpaya tavaiva
vrnde! numaste caranaravindas

Oh Vrinda! Devotees who have the desire to participate in the rasa dance, who long to live eternally in Vrindavan, and who hope only to achieve devotional service to the lotus feet of your most beloved Lords, easily attain the everlasting fulfillment of all their desires by your most gracious mercy. We therefore bow down to your divine
lotus feet.

VERSE SEVEN

tvam kirttyase satvata-tantra-vidbhir
lilabhidhana kila krsna-saktih
tavaiva murtis tulasi nr-loke
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Oh Vrinda! Highly qualified sages, who are well-versed in the Tantras of the mode of pure Goodness (the scriptures written by the Lord's pure devotees), have praised you as being the personified energy of Lord Krishna known as lila-sakti (the energy that helps perform His pastimes). You are also very famous in this world for your appearance here in the form of the tree known as Srimati Tulasi Devi. Therefore we offer our most respectful obeisances unto your beautiful lotus feet.

VERSE EIGHT

bhaktya vihina aparadha-laksaih
ksiptas ca kamadi-taranga-madhye
krpa-mayi! tvam saranam prapanna
vrnde! numaste caranaravindam

Unfortunately bereft of devotional service, and due to committing hundreds and thousands of offenses, we have been cast deep into the ocean of material existence; indeed, we are being tossed about by the terrible waves of lust, anger, greed, etc. Oh most merciful one! Our souls are surrendered unto you - and we offer our most respectful obeisances unto your divine lotus feet.

VERSE NINE

vrndastakam yah srnuyat pathed va
vrndavanadhisa-padabja-bhrngah
sa prapya vrndavana-nitya-vasam
tat-prema-sevam labhate krtarthah

Whoever hears or recites these eight prayers in glorification of Sri Vrinda Devi, becoming just like a bumble bee that is always anxious to taste the sweet nectarine lotus feet of the Divine Couple (the Lords of Vrindavan) - such a person verily attains eternal residence in Vrindavan. Having finally achieved the supreme goal of life, one thus remains situated in the ecstatic loving service of the Divine Couple Sri Sri Radha-Madhava.


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Friday, March 17, 2017

Bhagavan Das and his daughter Manjari Ehrlichman


The Sun King


Bhagavan Das and his daughter Manjari Ehrlichman

Dear PADA: 

Manjari Ehrlichman is the daughter of Bhagavan das, and is a senior devotee who is 44 years old. She promised me in India to marry me to help me get USA CITIZENSHIP. I tolerated her craziness of flirtatious behavior for years, and even her bringing other men to our place.

We bought a van together, I put $2,500 she lent me the other $1,500. Later I paid her $500. Then when I finally had the $1,000 check in my hand to pay her off the rest, she told me not to worry, that was money I should use for going back to India. She refused to give me the van title. I told her I was bringing the van to Berkeley to SELL IT CLEARLY. 


I found a friend that was going to give me $4,000. She first accepted to put the title in my name, but she didn't. She changed her mind and started to request me to release the van to her or else she was going to report it as stolen, and then she took my name off the title despite knowing that I put forward 75% of the money for it.

She then blocked me from communication, and she said she took care of me for two years. Yet I also did a lot for her, and also I gave to her all the most youthful years of my life, and she never even started the paper work to apply for my green card, always giving excuses and going back and forth, then forcing me to go to the psychiatrist. 


I thus had to go all the way from the Bay Area to Sacramento because of her desires, and traveled multiple times. This time was all wasted because she was unwilling to help me. I still don't understand why she was so hesitant to marry me, and then later she wanted a divorce, and at the end it was all to make me waste my time. I simply didn't get what she promised, not only that, but she tried to sabotage my schooling with my dad. 

She was telling him that she was gonna press charges with the police against me, falsely accusing me of stealing her deities. She also try to sabotage the place where I was staying, by telling the devotees that I had naked pictures of me and him, when clearly that doesn't even exist. She made it up so I would not have a place to stay. 

The true extent of her cruelty has no measure. She claims to be a devotee but in all my years in her association, I noticed she doesn't chant her rounds and she smokes pot all day long. And she gossips about her sister marrying one of her 13 years younger boyfriends. And the reason she cared for him is, he was Gurudev's financial banker. Even Gurudev told her to back off, but she got with him anyway. She chases yet another man who is 20 years old, she takes advantage of younger people to extract the youth out of them.

She has no real ambition or discipline in spiritual life, its all a show. And her deities got stolen due to this by another guy, who she made come all the way to her place, and in the end she didn't give him what he was there for either. 


The van problem was also helped by Abhay, who wanted to buy my van over time, for a couple hundred dollars at a time. She stole my van to make me suffer, and she hasn't told me anything regarding our legal divorce status. She also legally wanted to deport me from this country but she couldn't, she is evil, cruel and crazy for attacking me like this after I did so much to help her.

She is a lesbian cougar, she and me engaged in coitus in 10 holy places while her guru was in the verge of dying. H
er guru asked her, "Are you a manjari"? He couldn't recognize her swarupa either. She is a fake and needs to get taught a lesson, because she doesn't show respect at all to me, others or her own guru. She plays mind games to manipulate others for exploiting them. 

We were in a relationship for 6 years and she promised me a green card, and then she never went thru. Then she stole my van and tried to report it stolen to get me in legal trouble. She also tried to get me in trouble with other law enforcement, as well as my dad and with my devotee acquaintences.

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PADA:

We have been contacted by the ex-wife of the daughter of Bhagavan das (Manjari Ehrlichman). Yes, according to this woman, Manjari had married another woman at one point. And apparently Manjari married this woman and further promised she would help her "new wife" get an immigration card for the USA, because same sex marriage is legal, especially in our San Francisco area. As it turns out, the legal help did not happen, instead the woman who married Manjari is now in a very distressful and semi-destitute situation. 

OK, she was a little naive, agreed, but that is not a license to exploit her and put her into a distressed situation. She herself feels that she was exploited and cheated, so she contacted me for some sort of help with her many problems. I decided to at least try to help, because a lot of her plight was created by so-called devotees, so she deserves at least some help from the devotee class. Of course this begs the self evident question, how does the daughter of one of the GBC's self-advertised "sum total of the demigods" messiahs end up marrying another woman? 

First of all, this woman could not really work with the official ISKCON folks for many reasons, so she went off to the Narayan Maharaja (NM) camp. And that is where she ran into Bhagavan das and his daughters. The NM program really did not work out very well for her either, so now she's interested in another Yogi and his group, not really connected to general Vaishnava communities. So this woman is merely one out of tens of thousands who just cannot get into the ISKCON GBC's program, and / or who has been exploited by them. And she is another person who ran off to NM, only to find that his program was simply another source of troubles.  

Apparently a little history of what happened is, at least according to this lady, Manjari was trying to become married to a man who was a lot younger than she was. Manjari's younger sister also had a similar interest in the same younger man. And its self evident the younger sister was more suited -- being from a similar age group. Allegedly, Manjari became very upset that the younger sister was taking this man out of her grasp. Supposedly, the reason Manjari was so interested in this man is that he was (quote unquote) "materially together" so he could take care of her, because she is apparently in a precarious financial situation. 

According to this source, at a meeting of the NM folks some years ago, Manjari and her sister got into a big physical fight, and the police were called. According to this lady, the police arrested Manjari and there was allegedly a knife found. After that, she supposedly became suicidal, and there may have been an incident of her taking a lot of pills. We cannot verify any of this, but that is what Manjari's ex tells us. If true, how did Manjari come to such a sad state?

Then again, PADA does not blame folks like Manjari directly for all these problems and issues. We would rather say Bhagavan Das self evidently didn't raise Manjari very responsibly. First of all, Bhagavan Das was a person who was claiming to be God's successor / acharya / messiah, basically a person who could absorb sins like Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Then it turns out, he was unable to follow even the basic standards of the religion. In other words, he's a giant cheater. Imagine being the child of such an imperious and preposterous narcissist? This would create a troubled childhood for sure.

Worse, Bhagavan Das also is credited with bankrupting his entire FRANCE zone, for starters by apparently stealing money out of the safe when he departed. 
This action basically discouraged the congregation, because now congregation members realized that the entire GBC structure of ISKCON was bogus for promoting bogus people as their jagat gurus, acharyas and messiahs. Kaitava dharma. And this was very discouraging for the rank and file.

So they lost hundreds of supporters from the society. And some of these people from his former zone have cursed him ever since, for being such a cheater. Just imagine how hard it is for someone like Manjari to have to deal with having such a father like this? I know some ex-Bhagavan disciples who told me they just cannot wait until he is dead, and he is dispatched to hell, where he belongs. He has certainly made some major enemies. Then again, shastra says that false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions, so it appears these curses will not go in vain.  

Anyway! Yep, its hard being a child of a parent who creates animosity on this level, and he openly defies the most grave warnings of going to the lowest regions. Overall Bhagavan is not viewed very well in the eyes of the Krishna society. Anyway, then Bhagavan das said the real solution to all this is, to siphon everyone away from ISKCON and go off to Narayana Maharaja (NM), the chief "rasika guru" and cheer leader of Tamal Krishna's post 1977 bogus guru sabha. 

*** Notice, Bhagavan FIRST destroys the faith of hundreds of people with his guru scandals, and this takes hundreds and maybe thousands of folks away from the society. 

*** Then he says, our real shelter is NM, and this takes hundreds of more people away from the ISKCON society, and he siphons them off to NM. 

*** THEN, he sort of leaves all this behind, because he cannot live in any of these so-called societies he helped generate himself, and he becomes aloof from the whole mess -- which he co-created? Some devotees have said that a number of these senior leading people simply passed their own stools into ISKCON, and then they have had to leave because -- even they could not stand the smell -- they themselves created. 

Some French devotees left holding the bag after their "Guru Maharaja" blooped said that Bhagavan has "totally devastated" the French Zone. Then, it only gets worse, he wants everybody to go to NM, which started yet another mass exodus from ISKCON to further divide and split up the ISKCON society, and destroy the integrity of ISKCON society. A lot of people apparently do not realize that it is people like TKG and Bhagavan Das who are the Pied Pipers that led everyone off to join the NM program. This was simply another way of exploiting and devastating ISKCON. 

Now when I visited Paris temple during the Bhagavan era, the men's shower was all clogged up, and there was 2 feet of dirty water in the sunken shower. I said, hey, how does Bhagavan take a shower here? And his people said, well he never comes here to stay, he stays at the five star hotel down the road. 

So we are paying Bhagavan a huge salary to maintain the society, but he cannot even get the shower fixed? And he instead spends temple money on a five-star hotel room, and a big BMW 740 luxury car? He's not maintaining the basics of the main program he's being paid to maintain? This is fraud. These big gurus are getting paid big salaries to maintain things, and many are not doing the job they are being paid to do. Fraud, plain and simple. 

And there was a lot of garbage downstairs in the temple hallway, probably because he was not paying the garbage bill. One UK woman left Bhagavan's zone with her baby, citing that she could not get diapers and female sanitary products. Two men came from Bhagan's zone to England and they kidnapped the baby back from her, and they punched out her mother in the process, and the men took the baby back to Paris. Then, the police were called, and a deal was made with the police where I was deputed to go to Paris to pick up the baby, a three-year-old little girl, and to bring her back to UK. Which I did. 

Anyway, all this was then in the major EU newspapers and media. And while this woman could not get basic supplies, Bhagavan Das was living like an opulent Saudi Prince, and in fact he became known as the Sun King because he was living so opulently. So obviously this created a very stressful environment for Manjari to grow up in. 

The upshot is, the ex-wife of Manjari has requested to get back the money that she invested in a van that Manjari allegedly stole from her. And she needs to find out if Manjari has actually finalized their divorce papers, and she needs a copy of those papers for legal reasons (she has immigration issues etc.). So we are hoping that Manjari will respond and help out her former partner. If we expect people to become purified, we cannot treat them badly in the name of Krishna, that is not going to help them make progress. 

Anyway! If there is anyone else who can help out here, write me @ 

angel108b@yahoo.com

Then again, ISKCON has been chock full of broken down marriages, friendships, relationships, and bitter cat and dog infighting, so this is an ongoing issue. And this is simply another example of these mid-day soap opera dramas we see all the time. Its very unfortunate that these things keep recurring. 

At the same time, we cannot always use the victim card, we are often victims for a reason, and we need to act responsibly and take credit for our own actions. As me and Sulochana used to discuss, all of us -- even devotees -- are in Krishna's prison, and sometimes the prisoners will turn on each other, and beat and slash each other, and steal from one another etc. just like in actual prisons. So its all part of the purification process on another level.

At the same time, shastra blames the victimizers as primarily at fault, because even if its our karma to be exploited, no other conditioned has the authority to exploit us. And in particular false gurus are always condemned, and they will have a hard time with their future. There is simply no excuse for being a false guru, because everyone in their orbit suffers, including their own children. And for that reason, we are very sorry for what happened to Manjari as well, and we wish her all the best and hope she too can heal from all this.

Anyway! Bhagavan Das is the main orchestrator of all this mayhem. His false guru posturing created most of these problems for Manjari, and us, and for thousands of others. Lets review a few citations on this issue from shastra:   

From Dhamaghosha dasa:

SB 6.2.5-6-- Translation-People in general are not very advanced in knowledge by which to discriminate between religion and irreligion. The innocent, unenlightened citizen is like an ignorant animal sleeping in peace with its head on the lap of its master, faithfully believing in the master’s protection. If a leader is actually kindhearted and deserves to be the object of a living entity’s faith, how can he punish or kill a foolish person who has fully surrendered in good faith and friendship?


PURPORT

The Sanskrit word visvasta-ghata refers to one who breaks faith or causes a breach of trust. The mass of people should always feel security because of the government’s protection. Therefore, how regrettable it is for the government itself to cause a breach of trust and put the citizens in difficulty for political reasons. We actually saw during the partition days in India that although Hindus and Muslims were living together peacefully, manipulation by politicians suddenly aroused feelings of hatred between them, and thus the Hindus and Muslims killed one another over politics. 

This is a sign of Kali-yuga. In this age, animals are kept nicely sheltered, completely confident that their masters will protect them, but unfortunately as soon as the animals are fat, they are immediately sent for slaughter. 

Such cruelty is condemned by Vaisnavas like the Visnudutas. Indeed, the hellish conditions already described await the sinful men responsible for such suffering. 

One who betrays the confidence of a living entity who takes shelter of him in good faith, whether that living entity be a human being or an animal, is extremely sinful. 

Because such betrayals now go unpunished by the government, all of human society is terribly contaminated. The people of this age are therefore described as mandah sumanda-matayo manda-bhagya hy upadrutah [SB 1.1.10]. As a consequence of such sinfulness, men are condemned (mandah), their intelligence is unclear (sumanda-matayah), they are unfortunate (manda-bhagyah), and therefore they are always disturbed by many problems (upadrutah). This is their situation in this life, and after death they are punished in hellish conditions.

Isopanishad -12-purport

In other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as religious principles. 

By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession. They ignore the Vedic injunction acaryopasana-"One must worship the acarya"-and Kṛṣṇa's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the disciplic succession." Instead, to mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called acaryas, but they do not even follow the principles of the acaryas.

These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. 

Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20). 

Sri Isopanisad confirms that these pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after the completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct simply for sense gratification.

DD: So the two above verses and purports explain how dangerous can be this business of assuming the post of Acarya, spiritual master, priest, etc especially if one has not been authorized to take up such a task by his own spiritual master.
Srila Prabhupada explains it as “cheating” and “extremely sinful”. Not a very pretty picture for a person one has assumed, has taken up some spiritual path.

On the other hand, there is an actual path for us to become purified --

SB 6.4.26 Translation - When one’s consciousness is completely purified of the contamination of material existence, gross and subtle, without being agitated as in the working and dreaming states, and when the mind is not dissolved as in susupti, deep sleep, one comes to the platform of trance. Then one’s material vision and the memories of the mind, which manifests names and forms, are vanquished. Only in such a trance is the Supreme Personality of Godhead revealed. Thus let us offer our respectful obeisances unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is seen in that uncontaminated, transcendental state.

PURPORT--There are two stages of God realization. One is called sujneyam, or very easily understood (generally by mental speculation), and the other is called durjneyam, understood only with difficulty. Paramatma realization and Brahman realization are considered sujneyam, but realization of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is durjneyam.

As described here, one attains the ultimate realization of the Personality of Godhead when one gives up the activities of the mind—thinking, feeling and willing—or, in other words, when mental speculation stops. This transcendental realization is above susupti, deep sleep. In our gross conditional stage we perceive things through material experience and remembrance, and in the subtle stage we perceive the world in dreams. 

The process of vision also involves remembrance and also exists in a subtle form. Above gross experience and dreams is susupti, deep sleep, and when one comes to the completely spiritual platform, transcending deep sleep, he attains trance, visuddha-sattva, or vasudeva-sattva, in which the Personality of Godhead is revealed.

Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaiḥ: [BRS.]

“No one can understand the transcendental nature of the name, form, quality and pastimes of Sri Krsna through his materially contaminated senses. Only when one becomes spiritually saturated by transcendental service to the Lord are the transcendental name, form, quality and pastimes of the Lord revealed to him.” (Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu 1.2.234)1.2.234] as long as one is situated in duality, on the sensual platform, gross or subtle, realization of the original Personality of Godhead is impossible. 

Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ: but when one engages his senses in the service of the Lord—specifically, when one engages the tongue in chanting the Hare Krsna mantra and tasting only Krsna prasada with a spirit of service—the Supreme Personality of Godhead is revealed. This is indicated in this verse by the word suci-sadmane. Suci means purified. 

By the spirit of rendering service with one’s senses, one’s entire existence becomes suci-sadma, the platform of uncontaminated purity. Daksa therefore offers his respectful obeisances unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is revealed on the platform of suci-sadma. In this regard Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura quotes the following prayer by Lord Brahma from the Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.14.6): tathapi bhuman mahimagunasya te viboddhum arhaty amalantar-atmabhiḥ. “One whose heart has become completely purified, my Lord, can understand the transcendental qualities of Your Lordship and can understand the greatness of Your activities.”

BG 15.7-purport-

It is clear, however, in this verse, that the conditioned soul is covered by the material body, with the mind and the senses, and when he is liberated this material covering perishes, but his spiritual body manifests in its individual capacity. The following information is there in the Māahyandi-nayana-sruti: sa va esa brahma-nistha idam sariram marttyam atisrjya brahmabhisampadya brahmana pasyati brahmana srnoti brahmanaivedam sarvam anubhavati. 

It is stated here that when a living entity gives up this material embodiment and enters into the spiritual world, he revives his spiritual body, and in his spiritual body he can see the Supreme Personality of Godhead face to face. He can hear and speak to Him face to face, and he can understand the Supreme Personality as He is.

SB 1.8.4 purport-


As long as we are in the material world, our duty is to follow the orders of the Lord, and if by the grace of the Lord we are liberated from the clutches of the material world, then in our liberated stage also we can render transcendental loving service unto the Lord. In our material stage we can see neither ourselves nor the Lord for want of spiritual vision. But when we are liberated from material affection and are situated in our original spiritual form we can see both ourselves and the Lord face to face. 

Mukti means to be reinstated in one's original spiritual status after giving up the material conception of life. Therefore, human life is specifically meant for qualifying ourselves for this spiritual liberty.

So the above nicely describes the position of liberation or mukti, now let us take a quick look at the position of a pure devotee, spiritual master who also must be by definition a mukta or liberated person.

Feb 18 1969 LA-

Prabhupada: Every being is, just like if I see somebody, that this boy is the son of such and such gentleman. That means I see such and such gentleman in this boy. Is it clear? If I see every living being is son of God or Kṛṣṇa, then that means I see God in every beings. Is there any difficulty to understand?
Visnujana: Is this an association or this a vision?
Prabhupada: No, this is a fact. (laughter) It is not an association or vision, this is a fact. When you see a cat, when you see a dog, you see Krsna in him

June 29 1974 Melbourne
Guest (3): So, Śrīla Prabhupāda, have you realized God?
Prabhupāda: What do you think? What is your opinion?
Guest (3): I can't say.
Prabhupāda: Then if I say, "yes," then what you will understand? If you are not yourself expert, then even if I say, "Yes, I am God realized," how you will take it as truth? If you do not know what is God realization, then how you can ask this question and how you will be satisfied by the answer? You do not know.
Guest (3): Well, what is God realization?
Prabhupāda: Then... Then you were asking, "Are you God realized?" If I say, "Yes," then how you'll believe it? You do not know what is God realization. Then why do you put this question? You do not know yourself. If I say,"Yes," how you'll understand that I am right? Therefore you should not put all these questions. It has no value. You do not know yourself what is God realization. Now, just like a medical man, if he asks another man, medical man, so if he says, "Yes," then medical man will understand him by technical terms whether he is medical man. So unless one is medical man, what is the use of asking another man, "Are you medical man?" Unless you are prepared to take the answer whatever I give. Are you prepared?
Guest (3): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then it is all right. I am. I am seeing God every moment. So unless we are prepared to take the answer, we should not put ourself...

March 6 1968 letter-

Yes, whoever you tell the chant to, it is effective. You have heard it from me and my disciples, similarly I have heard it from my Guru Maharaja, and so on, and on. Because you have heard it from a pure devotee of the Lord, therefore it is transmitted from you to another. Just as an aerial message, is transmitted from one place to another, similarly, this Guru parampara system is working. My disciples are my agents, my representatives, so by hearing it from them, you are receiving it from me. And because you are a sincere soul, those who are hearing the Mantra from you are receiving it in disciplic succession, from Lord Caitanya and from Lord Krishna.

Dec 16 1967 letter SF--

When I left your country on the 22nd of July, I had very little hope to come back again. But Krishna informed me that I'm not going to die immediately; therefore, I have come back again to get inspiration of Krishna Consciousness from you all good souls.

Jan 29 1973 letter-

Yes, the spiritual master is also present in his picture, though more importantly he is present in his teachings. I think this is explained in one letter that has already been distributed. If you have further questions try to get them resolved by your GBC man, Karandhar, because now I wish to spend all of my time for translating my books like Srimad-Bhagavatam, so I may give them to you.

June 21 1970 letter-

Yes So far I am concerned, I cannot say what I was in my previous life, but one great astrologer calculated that I was previously a physician and my life was sinless. Besides that, to corroborate the statement of Bhagavad-gita "sucinam srimatam gehe yogabhrasta samyayate" [Bg. 6.41] which means an unfinished yogi takes birth in rich family or born of a suci or pious father. By the grace of Krsna I got these two opportunities in the present life to be born of a pious father and brought up in one of the richest, aristocratic families of Calcutta (Kasinath Mullick). 

The Radha Krsna Deity in this family called me to meet Him, and therefore last time when I was in Calcutta, I stayed in that temple along with my American disciples. Although I had immense opportunities to indulge in the four principles of sinful life because I was connected with a very aristocratic family, Krsna always saved me, and throughout my whole life I do not know what is illicit sex, intoxication, meat-eating or gambling. So far my present life is concerned, I do not remember any part of my life when I was forgetful of Krsna.

Some conclusions- In the above texts and purports we have seen that to willingly betray those under our care is a greatly sinful activity and is punishable by Yamaraja the lord of death. We have also seen that anybody who assumes without authority or qualification the post of Acarya or spiritual master and thereby betrays his disciples is clearing his path to hellish life. Also clearly shown was the actual state of consciousness of one who is beyond the body mind and intelligence platforms, or one who is on the Suddha sattva platform of God consciousness. 

This is not an easy thing to attain. And finally we have seen that Srila Prabhupada is on this platform of Krsna or God Consciousness where as he says there was never a time in his sinless life that he was forgetful of God or Krsna and we also mentioned several other “proofs” of his direct contact with the Lord of Vrndavana.

Hare Krsna--damaghosa das