Rama Navami 04 06 25

(kīrtana)

Prabhupāda: (chants maṅgalācaraṇa prayers)

rāmādi mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan

nānāvatāram akarod bhuvaneṣu kintu

kṛṣṇaḥ svayaṁ samabhavat paramaḥ pumān yo

govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

[Bs. 5.39]

This is a verse from Brahma-saṁhitā in which the incarnation of Lord Rāmacandra is described. Rāmādi. Not only Rāma, but there are many other, innumerable incarnations. They are compared with the waves of a river. As the waves of the river or the waves of the ocean cannot be counted, similarly, how many incarnations are there of the Supreme Lord it is not possible to count. 

But out of them, the principal names are mentioned in the śāstras. Therefore it is said rāmādi. Rāmādi means Rāma and also other, many incarnations. And they are existing. Not that one incarnation appeared and it is finished. No. Not like that. 

Just like Lord Rāmacandra appeared on this planet, say millions of years before. He appeared in the Treta-yuga. Treta-yuga means... We have passed only five thousand years of this age, Kali-yuga. Before that, there was Dvāpara-yuga. Dvāpara-yuga means 800,000 years. And before that, there was Tretā-yuga, which continued for twelve hundred thousands of years. That means at least two million years before Lord Rāmacandra appeared on this planet.

So now Lord Rāmacandra appeared in Ayodhyā. There is a place in Ayodhyā, in northern India. There He appeared. As Kṛṣṇa appeared in Mathurā... That is also northern India. And Mathurā is about ninety miles down southward from New Delhi. You have heard the name of New Delhi, the capital of India. So Ayodhyā is also situated about five hundred miles northeast of New Delhi. So Lord Rāmacandra appeared on this day. Today is called Śrī Rāma Naumi. 

On the ninth day of the moon Lord Rāmacandra appeared. His father was the king of Ayodhyā, and he had three wives. So out of... No. He had two wives. So out of two wives he got four sons. Rāmacandra is the eldest son. The life and activities of Lord Rāmacandra is... [break] ...in a book which is called Rāmāyaṇa. You have heard the name of Rāmāyaṇa. Rāmāyaṇa is also accepted as history. 

Vedic literatures are histories also. The Purāṇas, the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Mahābhārata, and Rāmāyaṇa, they are counted amongst the history. The history of Rāmacandra is that His father wanted to retire. Daśaratha, Mahārāja Daśaratha. And he decided to enthrone Lord Rāmacandra and retire. So everything was settled, but just one day before, his youngest wife turned the whole thing into different way. 

Sometimes Mahārāja Daśaratha was suffering from what is called whitlow, some trouble in the finger? And this queen served him very nicely, and he was pleased. And he said, "My dear Śarmiṣṭhā, if you want some benediction from me, I can give you." And she replied that "I shall ask you for the benediction when I require it. Not now." So just one day before Lord Rāmacandra's coronation, she approached her husband Mahārāja Daśaratha and reminded him, "My dear husband, you promised to give me some benediction, and I told you that I shall ask you when I require it." 

Mahārāja Daśaratha said, "Yes, I remember. You want some benediction just now?" She said, "Yes." "And what is that?" She said that "Rāmacandra cannot be seated on the throne. My son should be coronated, Bhārata." He was surprised. It is a big demand. So he said, "All right. That will be done. Your son." Because formerly, the kings... Not only formerly, even up to date, there are many kṣatriya kings in India. They have more than one wife. And they are, naturally, there is rivalry between different wives. So the same thing. Human psychology is the same. Even two million years ago the same mentality was there, and she asked that "My son should be the king, not Rāmacandra." Rāmacandra happened to be the son of Kauśalyā, the elder queen.

So Mahārāja Daśaratha agreed and called for Rāmacandra. "My dear boy, your..." She asked also that... She was very diplomatic. She wanted that Rāmacandra go to forest for fourteen years. The idea was political, that "The king may agree to install my son just now. Now, after a few days, this Rāmacandra may come with His army, and there may be some difficulty to continue the kingdom." So she wanted that Rāmacandra should go to the forest and He should not come back till the end of fourteen years from this day. So Mahārāja Daśaratha agreed. Because he was kṣatriya. Just see the promise. 

A kṣatriya never goes back from the promise, never refuses any challenge. If a kṣatriya is challenged by somebody, that "I want to fight with you," oh, he cannot refuse. This is kṣatriya spirit. He cannot say that "I am now busy." Suppose somebody comes to you, that "I want to fight with you." You may say, "What nonsense fight? I have no time. We are in the temple." But a kṣatriya cannot deny that. A kṣatriya at once must accept. "Oh, yes. Come on." And the weapon should be, if he has no sword or weapon, he should be supplied weapon and fight. This is kṣatriya spirit. They were highly charitable and chivalrous and keeping promise and with a great tendency for ruling over. They shall rule over. Administrators. Their business is...

There are different prescription for different classes of men for their livelihood. The brāhmaṇas, they can pull on their livelihood by six ways. Paṭhana paṭhana yājana yājana dāna pratigraha. Six. And they must be qualified with twelve high qualities. We have many times discussed. Out of that qualification, truthfulness is the first item for a brāhmaṇa. A kṣatriya may speak lies. 

That is allowed, because he has to be diplomat, politician. But a brāhmaṇa, oh, he's not allowed to speak lie. This is the system, caste system or varṇāśrama system. Everyone was trained. Because these four classes of men are required in a society. For proper upkeep of society, one class of men must be very intelligent, highly qualified, with all good qualities. 

They must be trained in that way, ideal character so that people can see and follow them. Therefore, brāhmaṇas were taken to so much respect because they're ideal character, learned, and godly, knows the science, spiritual science. Therefore, they're held in high estimation and topmost of the society. The next, the administrator, administrative class, kṣatriyas. They are trained how to kill. The kṣatriyas were allowed to hunt in the forest to learn the art of killing because that was necessity for the kṣatriyas. Kṣatriya, if he... If the king, if he finds somebody is doing wrong, he can immediately chop off his head if he likes. 

The king was so powerful. And it is not that if there was some war, it is not that the president or the king shall sit down comfortably at home and ordinary soldiers will go and lay down their life. No. Formerly, the king or the head of the state, he should first of all go there in the fight. You see in the picture, the chief men of the fighting in the Kurukṣetra, both sides, they were arrayed, this side, that side, with their chariot. Not that the head man, the chief man, or the commander is taking shelter back side, protecting himself, and poor soldiers are (chuckles) thrown into the fighting. 

No. These were kṣatriya spirit. And it is necessary that a class of men should be trained up in that way, kṣatriya, fighting men. In India, because this training was there since a very long time, so there is no difficulty in recruiting soldiers there. There is a class of men, they are very much forward in fighting still. They are called... Just like the Gurkhas, the Nepalese. You have heard the name of Nepal. Still a small state, independent state. They are not within India. Between China and India. 

The whole Nepal population, they are kṣatriyas. Oh, they are very good fighters. Similarly, the Sikhs, the Jātas. There are classes. So they're always forward for fighting. And you'll be surprised that the British Empire was voluntarily liquidated because they lost India. The Britishers, they understood that because we are now losing India, there is no more possibility to keep our eastern empire. Therefore, they liquidated. Why? Actually, the whole British Empire were being administered or managed by Indian soldiers, these Sikhs and Gurkhas. They extended their empire. After taking their position with India, they extended British Empire in the Middle East and Far East simply by these Sikhs and Gurkha soldiers. They got supremacy on the Burma and everywhere.

So, there is necessity of a class of fighting men. You are finding in your country difficulty in recruiting because the recruiting process is wrong. You are recruiting from persons... You are training persons just like śūdras, and you want them to fight. How they can fight? It is not possible. So as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, that cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa karma vibhāgaśaḥ... [Bg. 4.13]. Lord Kṛṣṇa said that "The four classes or orders of the society, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, is planned by Me according to work and quality." 

So this kṣatriya quality men is also required, the brāhmaṇa quality of men is also required, the mercantile community, they are also required, and the laborer class, they are also required. Of course, laborer class, they do not require any training. Laborer class means one who cannot do anything, neither become brāhmaṇa, nor become kṣatriya, nor become vaiśya. That means the last balance of the population, they are called laborer class, śūdra. Śūdra means one who has no training. Śūdra has no saṁskāra. Saṁskāra means training. 

Everyone is accepted as śūdra by birth. Janmanā jāyate śūdraḥ. Janmanā means by birth. By birth, everyone is born a śūdra, a fourth-class man. It is to be accepted, and actually so. Just like a child, innocent child, what does he know? He has to be trained. Either you train him as a brāhmaṇa or train him as a kṣatriya or train him as a vaiśya. 

Or otherwise, he is śūdra already, born śūdra. Śūdra has no training. Everyone, the basic principle, basic foreground, everyone, it is accepted śūdra. Now, if you train him as a brāhmaṇa, then he becomes a brāhmaṇa. If you train him as a kṣatriya, then he becomes a kṣatriya. If you train him as a vaiśya... So I think this is, this system is very scientific so that if you want help of a really intelligent man or God realized man, it is ready, the brāhmaṇa class. Just like if you require the help of a lawyer, we have got so many lawyers. If you require the help of medical man... Because there are trained men. 

Similarly, the society requires to train a certain class of men to become brāhmaṇas. Just like we are training the Kṛṣṇa conscious. The Kṛṣṇa consciousness is meant for the brāhmaṇas. They are not meant for fighting because they are not being trained for fighting. They have been trained for becoming brāhmaṇas. Who is brāhmaṇa? Brahma jānāti iti brāhmaṇa. The four divisions are described like this. Janmanā jāyate śūdraḥ, everyone is born śūdra. That is accepted. Saṁskārād bhaved dvijaḥ. Now if you train him, never mind in which family he's born, you have to train him. Just like boys are sent to school for being trained. So everyone is accepted as śūdra, but you now train him. He goes to the guru-gṛha.

Guru-gṛha means teacher's house. Formerly, for being trained, there was no such big scale school and colleges. Every village... Still, fifty years before in India, in every village there was a small school conducted by the brāhmaṇa, and the village children would be trained up there. So he was sent for training. And there was no school fee. The boys will go there, and on behalf of the teacher or spiritual master, they will go, brahmacārī, door to door, and beg and bring forth alms, rice, dahl, grains, and everything. That was the system. There was no school fee. 

There was no problem how to send a boy to the school. Saṁskāra. Now he's trained up. The teacher sees the psychology of the boy, in which way he should be trained. Either he should be trained as a vaiśya or he should be trained as a kṣatriya. So everyone was trained like that, but generally, the son of a kṣatriya... Just like Mahārāja Rāmacandra or Arjuna, from the very beginning they were trained as kṣatriya. Naturally, if somebody is the son of a medical man his father trains him to become a medical man in future. That is the natural tendency. 

If the boy is different altogether that is another question, but naturally, that is the tendency. So a kṣatriya's son was trained as kṣatriya. A brāhmaṇa's son was trained as a brāhmaṇa and a vaiśya's son was trained as a vaiśya, and śūdra had no training. So gradually this became a caste system. Brāhmaṇa's son became brāhmaṇa. Because formerly, the training was there. But when it is vitiated, although a person born in the family of a brāhmaṇa, he is doing the work of a śūdra. So according to Vedic scripture, one is classified according to his work and quality, not by birth. 

That is the classification of śāstra. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā the Lord says cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [Bg. 4.13]. Guṇa means quality and karma means work. One must be qualified for the work and he must actually work. Then he is counted classified into that, I mean to say, category. Just like if you are simply trained or educated as a lawyer, and if you are not practicing in the court, nobody comes to you to consult as a lawyer. Nobody cares for you. You must be practicing also. 

Similarly, to become a brāhmaṇa means first of all, he must know what is Brahman and he must be actually situated in the activities of Brahman. So devotional service are activities of Brahman. Activities in Kṛṣṇa consciousness means activities in Brahman. Brāhme carati iti brahmā brahmacārī. Carati means acts. Actually, he acts in life, applies the principles of brāhmaṇa in his life, he is called brahmacārī. So these were the trainings.

So just see how the training was, that a kṣatriya cannot refuse his promise. So Mahārāja Daśaratha, he fulfilled the promise of his youngest wife and asked his son, eldest son Rāmacandra, "My dear boy, You'll have to go to forest for fourteen years. That is the desire of Your youngest mother. And I promised that I shall fulfill her promise, uh, request. So please accept." Rāmacandra said, "Yes father, I am ready." Just see. This is the quality. Out of the six opulences of God, this is one quality.

aiśvaryasya samāgrasya

vīryasya yaśasaḥ śriyaḥ

jñāna-vairāgyayoś caiva

ṣaṇṇāṁ bhāgam itīṅganā

(Viṣṇu Purāṇa 6.5.47)

How one becomes God? God is not manufactured by vote. There are definition who is God. God must be the proprietor of all the riches. Aiśvaryasya samāgrasya. Samāgra means all. Nobody can compete with Him. Here, in this world, material world, I am rich man, and there is another rich man who can compete with me. There is another rich man who can compete with him. But nobody can compete with God in richness. That is one qualification of God. Nobody can say that "I am richer than God." 

You can say "I am richer than Ford or Rockefeller" or this or that. You can say. But nobody can say that "I am richer than God." Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat asti kiñcid dhanañjaya. Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya [Bg. 7.7]. Dhanañjaya is a name of Arjuna, and Kṛṣṇa said that, "My dear Arjuna, there is nobody greater than Me." So if anyone claims that he is God, he must prove by practical example that nobody is richer than him. That is the first. But unfortunately, we are accepting so many Gods. A rascal in the street, he also claims that "I am God."

So similarly, the other qualification, nobody can be stronger than God, nobody can be wiser than God, nobody can be more beautiful than God, and nobody can be more renouncer than God. So here Rāmacandra, Lord Rāmacandra exhibited the quality how He renounced the whole kingdom simply on the order of His father, His obedience to father. He could have argued with His father, "My dear father, you, simply for keeping your promise and actuated by the dictation of a woman, you are doing this. 

Let us stop it. Everyone is expecting that tomorrow My coronation will be there, and they love Me so much." Because He... Just like Kṛṣṇa was so much loved, similarly, Lord Rāmacandra was the life of the people. They were very much expecting that Rāmacandra was going to be enthroned tomorrow. So how they were celebrating, how they were decorating the whole city. Everything. He never argued. He accepted immediately: "Yes, father. I am ready."

So then one of the brothers, Lakṣmaṇa, He also requested Rāmacandra, "My dear brother, You also take Me. I am Your constant companion. I must go with You." So He said, "That's Your wish. Voluntarily, if You want to come, You can come with Me." Then Sītā, His wife, young wife, She also said, "I'll go with You." Rāmacandra requested His wife, "Oh, you cannot go with Me. It is very difficult. You are a king's daughter, and you are brought up in so nice way, and you are so beautiful. You cannot go. You cannot take the trouble of living in the forest." So she said, "Oh, I am Your wife. Married wife. So I must go even if You go to hell." 

This is ideal wife. She could have refused: "Oh, Your father has ordered to go to forest. You can go. I shall go to my father's house or I shall remain here." No. This is ideal wife. She must be prepared to accept any circumstances of the husband. Not that when the husband is rich the wife is very faithful, and when he has come down to be poor or he's going to forest the wife gives up his company. No. Wife means better half. She must abide. Just like, it is said, just like a shadow follows the reality, similarly, the wife is the shadow of the husband. 

Wherever the husband goes, she must go. Whatever the husband wants, she must carry out. Of course, in this country this interpretation is taken differently, that wife is made a slave. But actually, it is not so. When Sītā was kidnapped in the jungle, Rāmacandra expected that, that she was beautiful, she was young, and "We shall be in open jungle. It may be some demons may come," and actually it so happened. So for Sītā, Lord Rāmacandra massacred the whole family of Rāvaṇa. Only for Sītā. So as the husband, so the wife. The wife was so faithful that she could not remain alone. She must accompany the husband even in the forest. And the husband was so faithful that, "Oh, my wife has been kidnapped." So He massacred the whole family of Rāvaṇa.

So these are ideal history how... Rāmacandra, Lord Rāmacandra appeared on this world to educate or to place ideal example of a king. How the king should be. Therefore when there is good government... The example is given, Rāma-rājya. Rāma-rājya. It is the kingdom of Lord Rāma. Because everyone was happy, everyone. There are so many instances in the life of Rāmacandra. One brāhmaṇa... Not brāhmaṇa exactly. Somebody came to Rāmacandra. Because at that time there was no court like this, that you have to go to a court and apply with stamp fee. Then your judgment will be delivered after six years. It is not like that. 

Anyone who has got some complaint, he should... The king used to sit in the open audience, and the citizens were allowed to approach the king and place their complaints. Because there was no complaint practically. Everyone was happy. Very minor complaint. So somebody came to Rāmacandra, and he charged Rāmacandra, "My dear king, my son has died. How is that, in the presence of his father, son can die? There must be something wrong in Your government." Just see. The charge is "Why my son has died before my death? This is unnatural." So there was nothing unnatural. The king was responsible even for severe cold, severe heat. 

That we get from history of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. That is stated. So the kings were so much responsible. They were always thinking of the happiness of the citizens, and the citizens were also so nice. One citizen approached Lord Rāmacandra and His next assistant, His brother, Lakṣmaṇa, informed Him that "He is a brāhmaṇa. You were absent on Your tour for, I think for a fortnight or a month, and this brāhmaṇa has not eaten even a drop of water during Your absence." Why? "Because he comes here to see You, darśana." Just like we come here in the temple to see the Deity. So Lord Rāmacandra was present personally. So he used to come. 

After seeing Rāmacandra, offering his obeisances, then he would go home and take something, his breakfast. That was his vow. And because he could not see for a fortnight or a month Lord Rāmacandra because He was out on political tour, he did not eat even. Just see. The citizens were similar to the king. So at that time, there was a statue of Rāmacandra which was being worshiped in the family from Mahārāja Ikṣvāku. Mahārāja Ikṣvāku, the son of Manu, happens to be the forefather of the family in which Rāmacandra appeared. 

So he was devotee of Lord Rāma, and he was worshiping the statue of Lord Rāma. So that statue was being worshiped by the family one after another. But when Rāmacandra was actually present He kept that statue in the closet of the room, and when this brāhmaṇa approached and Rāmacandra was informed by Lakṣmaṇa that he is so steady and strong in his vow, so Rāmacandra ordered that he may be delivered that statue so that in My absence he can offer respect to the statue and do with this. That form, I mean to say, statue, or arca of Rāmacandra is still existing in South India. It is being worshiped from that time.

So these were the dealings of Rāmacandra. Then He, His younger brother Lakṣmaṇa and His wife went to the forest, and His wife was kidnapped by the diplomacy of the demon Rāvaṇa, and there was fight between Rāma and Rāvaṇa. Rāvaṇa was very, materialistically, he was very strong. But the thing is for fighting with Rāvaṇa, Rāmacandra did not come back to His kingdom and take His army. No. He did not come back because He was ordered to live in the forest. So He organized army with the jungle animals, the monkeys. The monkeys. He fought with Rāvaṇa, an organized materialist, with the monkeys. You have seen the picture. And He constructed a bridge between India's last point to the other side. Ceylon is considered to be the kingdom of Rāvaṇa. So there was a bridge, and the stones were floating.

So there are so many historical incidences in the life of Rāmacandra, and we should remember, because if we remember why we are observing today fasting for Rāmacandra... There were many kings like Rāmacandra. Because the kings were trained in that way. Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira was also as good as Rāmacandra, and Mahārāja Parikṣit was as good. There were many such kings. But we are not concerned because He was a king. He is the King of all kings, parameśvara. Because He is God, therefore we are observing today. 

Rāmādi-mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan [Bs. 5.39]. So He is not original form of God. The original form of God is Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa expands Himself in various other forms. Advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam [Bs. 5.33]. Ananta-rūpam means millions and millions. The Manu is also incarnation of Kṛṣṇa. So in one day of Brahmā there are fourteen Manus. So Brahmā lives for one hundred years. Just see how many incarnation of Manus are there even for one Brahmā, and there are innumerable Brahmās also. So, as stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam that nobody can count how many incarnations are there, but some of the chief incarnations are mentioned, and Lord Rāmacandra is one of them. 

So Lord Rāmacandra, He killed Rāvaṇa and He installed his brother. His brother was devotee, Vibhīṣaṇa. So He did not go to conquer Ceylon, because He was emperor. He went to punish that culprit Rāvaṇa, and He installed his younger brother Vibhīṣaṇa in that... And He came back with Sītā, and again He was installed after fourteen years, and His brother was so faithful that so long His eldest brother was away, Rāmacandra requested Him that "Your mother wants that You should be king, and I also wish that in My absence You should be king." Bharata, He was so faithful brother, He replied, "No. You are king. 

So long You are living, nobody can be king. So I cannot be king." Then He requested, "At least You administer." Because after the departure of Lord Rāmacandra, Mahārāja Daśaratha died out of the shock because Rāmacandra was very pet son, eldest son. He was going to be king, and by his order He was sent to the forest. The father could not tolerate the shock. He died.

So Rāmacandra's life, God's activities, pastimes, if we hear, that means we are associating with Rāmacandra. There is no difference between His form, His name, His pastimes, and Himself. He's absolute. Therefore either you chant the holy name of Rāma or you see the statue of Rāma or you talk of His pastimes, transcendental pastimes, everything, that means you are associating with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So we take advantage of these days when the incarnation of God appears or disappears, and we try to associate with Him. 

By His association we become purified. Our process is purification. Kṛṣṇa consciousness means simply we are purifying our consciousness. From the birth, as I have explained, everyone is śūdra. Śūdra means one who laments. That is called śūdra. For a slight loss or slight inconvenience, one who laments, he is called śūdra. And brāhmaṇa means one who tolerates. A śūdra has no toleration. So kalau śūdra sambhava. Kalau means... This age is called Kali. So it is the statement of the śāstras that in this age the whole population is śūdra. And formerly also, by his birth, everyone was considered śūdra, but there was training, saṁskāra. 

At the present moment, there is no saṁskāra, there is no training. The training is only for earning livelihood. No other training. How one can earn money and enjoy senses—that is the training at the present moment. But actually, to make successful the human life or the mission of human life, the Vedic culture is very nice. And by spreading Kṛṣṇa consciousness, by adopting the process of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you can revive that cultural life, sublime life. If not wholesale, if there are a few people trained up in this line, and they become ideal examples to the society, immense benefit can be derived from their examples of life. What is time? [break] (kīrtana) (end)

: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/festival/sri_rama-navami_lord_ramacandras_appearance_day/hawaii/march/27/1969

=================

With the forthcoming observance of Śrī Rāma Navamī, we present 'Prabhupāda Śrīla Sarasvatī Ṭhākura’s Visit to Ayodhyā' written by Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura Prabhupāda from The Gaudīyā magazine, Vol 3. Issue 21/ In December 1924, after visiting Benares and Prāyāga, Sarasvatī Ṭhākura visited the birth-site of Śrī Rāmācandra in Ayodhyā.

After a few days, we all reached Ayodhyā station at around 12:00 pm from Benares Cantonment in the company of Śrīpāda Paramānanda and Śrīpāda Kīrtanānanda Brahmācarī. That night we stayed in a dharmaśālā located just behind the station, and the next morning we went to a pāṇḍā’s house about 3-4 miles away.

We went sight-seeing with our guide to touch the waters of the nearby Sarayū River – first we took darśana of Matagajendra Śiva (the servant of Rāma and the kṣetrapāla, or protector of the dhāma) and then we went to Kanaka Bhavan and Ratna-siṅghāsana, the temple where Bharata worshiped the pādukās of Śrī Rāmacandra etc. It would not be an exaggeration to say that Kanka Bhavan is a huge three-storey royal palace made of stone. I heard from the mouth of the pāṇḍā that Śrī Rāmacandra first came to this place after marrying Sītā Devī. On inquiry, I learned that this large temple was built by a rāma-bhakta of Tikamgarh from the Jhansi district of Central India at a cost of lakhs of rupees. In it there are Deities of Śrī Rāma and Sītā. The Ratna-Siṁhāsana temple was built by the efforts and care of a sannyāsī belonging to the Rāmānandī sampradāya — here also there are Deities of Śrī Rāma and Sītā Devī, and on the opposite side a Deity of Śrī Mahāvīra Hanumānjī is worshipped. Then we went to Bharatajī’s temple and saw Śrī Rāma’s pādukās on a throne with Bharatajī sitting below. After passing many temples, we finally took darśana of the Yogapīṭha, the birth-place of Śrī Rāmacandra. Deities of Śrī Rāma and Sītā are served inside a thatched shed on a stone-built altar – next to it is a huge mosque of the Muslims which stands as a burning testimony to Aurangzeb’s hatred for Hindu dharma.

At one time, the whole place was forcibly occupied by the Muslim rulers. Later, as a result of various wars and disputes, the Hindus took over the rights of the Muslims. Just as a mother carefully protects her small son from the hands of a wicked kidnapper by grasping him in both hands and pressing him to her bosom, in the same way, even today, overcoming many obstacles and many tribulations in the midst of extreme torture, they are carefully protecting the land of their worshipable Lord.

Thinking about all these things, our mind began to be simultaneously overwhelmed with great sorrow and joy – why was there sorrow? We are ‘bāndā’ or ‘golam’ (servants) of the same Khoda (God) – we Hindus and Muslims are bound by brotherhood as servants of the same principal Master. By putting this insignificant external identity aside, by being concerned with the external cover, blinded by communal bigotry, we hurt each other’s religious beliefs and create a great wound in society, and gradually that wound spreads like an evil tumor, forcing both parties to journey towards death, making them offenders before the Supreme Lord. However, it is also a matter of happiness that at present, due to the efforts of the British government, religious disputes between both parties are not increasing to such an extent.

At one time, this place was constantly resounding with the sounds of conches, bells, kāṅsaras, mṛdaṅgas and karatālas of the community of enthusiastic worshippers and sevaites. Just as He did with Rāvaṇa, Bhagavān Śrī Rāmacandra destroys the demonic nature which the jīva acquires when trying to enjoy those things that are meant for the enjoyment of Bhagavān. The māyāvādīs beg for mundane prestige. They do not consider the ingredients of service to Bhagavān as worshipable. Due to bewildering lust, they hurry to enjoy them. They are unable to enjoy those things that are connected to Hari. The result is their own self-destruction. The victory of this burning truth is glorious! In order to preach to the jīvas who are anādi-bahirmukha (averse to the Lord since time immemorial), Bhagavān in all His completeness, descended to this place. Today, seeing the state of that place, my heart was overcome with despair, I could only think:

yadu-pateḥ kva gatā mathurā-purī

raghu-pateḥ kva gatottara-kośalā

iti vicintya kuruṣva manaḥ sthiraṁ

na sad idaṁ jagad ity avadhāraya

Where has Mathurā Purī of the Lord of the Yadus gone? Where is Northern Kośalā of the Lord of the Raghus? Thinking deeply upon this, I steady my mind, remembering that there is nothing in this world which is eternal.

Bhagavān is teaching us so much. However we have no common sense and no shame. Still, we forget our inherent nature and rush forward to enjoy temporary things. We are anādi-bahirmukha.

My life was blessed by touching the pure dust of this place and I smeared its transcendental dust all over my body. A little further away, I was pleased to have darśana of the temple of Śrī Hanumānjī, the king of devotees. The temple is situated very high up. After climbing many steps one gets his darśana, rolling on the ground and offering daṇḍavat-praṇāmas there, we returned home.

After taking darśana of the various divine temples of Ayodhyā, we could only think of Kuliyā Navadvīpa. At both places devalas (professional priests) open the temple doors as if they are shopkeepers. However, the difference lies in the fact that Ayodhyā does not have the perverse and offensive practice of forcibly collecting bheṭa (monetary donations).

At the time when we went, most of the local inhabitants had neglected the darśana-sevā of the Lord at the Yogapīṭha and had gone to bathe in the Triveṇī at Prayāga and at Gaṅgā-sāgara. Alas! Such are the bewildering shackles of māyā, alas! They have such a hunger to desire results which are as valuable as urine!

Expose of Italian Carlo Oppecini alias Kaunteya das 04 15 25

THE VIOLENCE AND ARROGANCE OF KAUNTEYA DAS

Gabriele Gaudini alias Gadadhara das (in the photo on the right) was one of the children beaten and abused in the gurukula of the ISKCON Villa Vrindavana temple in Florence.

Gabriele's brother is called Giulio and his father is called Stefano Gaudini.
Gabriele's wife is called Lilarani devi dasi, who in turn is the daughter of Rupa Vilasa Gozzi and Gopi Priya devi dasi.

In short, they are an extended family of Hare Krishna devotees who know all about what happened within the gurukula at that time. But why have they never spoken of these events? This looks like the Omerta code of the MAFIA, admit nothing and deny everything. And then more children have to suffer because no one knew there was a problem. 

Those who know are legally and morally obliged to report these serious incidents, first of all to the relevant authorities. This is to safeguard those who are approaching the Hare Krishna movement for the first time, but also to bring these criminals to justice.

We have seen how in some cases silence is bought or bartered. In this regard, we repropose what a famous Italian devotee wrote a few days ago under one of our articles on Dayanidhi das Vanacari's violence against Sanaka Rsi:

'Accepting money for silence is in itself a criminal act that endangers other children.

We may try to forget the past, but it does not forget us. At the right moment it acts relentlessly. Karma does not accept bribes. Gadadhara das's tormentor is the Italian Carlo Oppecini alias Kaunteya das; the delinquent now lives in Mayapur (India) and is married to Sri Radha Govinda Dasi.

His wife is an astrologer and in the sphere of Krishna Consciousness is very reminiscent of a Nazi hierarch. Both are disciples of Jayapataka Swami, but are close friends of one who deeply hates him: Michele Rombola' aka Mayapurchandra dasa, a notorious paedophile and criminal, brother of the criminal Alfredo Rombola' aka Arjuna das.

Yet the roman Kaunteya das is a bigwig in international ISKCON. He is currently co-minister, together with his diksa guru Jayapataka, of ISKCON's Ministry of Congregational Development and a member of the GBC's Strategic Planning Team.
He is currently in charge of acquiring land in the Puri area (India) on behalf of ISKCON.

In fact, to complete this project, he unofficially asked for help from his close friend Mayapurchandra dasa, who lives there. But why is Kaunteya das, who works for ISKCON, relying on Mayapurchandra who is notoriously opposed to ISKCON, hates his guru Jayapataka Maharaj, and was kicked out of the movement for being guilty of paedophilia? Also in Puri is Madhavananda, disciple of Gaura Govinda, who invites people like child abuser Dhanurdar to lecture.

The criminal Kaunteya dasa committed serious acts of physical and psychological violence against the then child Gadadhara dasa, but what he did to the other children in the Florence gurukula was even worse. This is a subject we will cover in future articles, if you will follow us patiently.

Just as we will discuss the role in all this of Marco Ferrini, alias Matsyavatara dasa, contemptuously called “the fish” by Gadadhara dasa himself. We have attached the letter from Gabriele Gaudini aka Gadadhara das who tells us in his own words how the events unfolded:

Gadadhara Remembers Kaunteya & Matsyavatara

BY: GADADHARA DAS

ITALY (SUN) — My name is Gadadhara das. I grew up in the gurukula of Villa Vrindavana, and I would like to add my memories and observations. I went to visit Acyuta and Anantalila, two old devotees from Villa Vrindavana. They told me that when they lived at the temple, they both served in the kitchen. 

He was a brahmacari and she was a married woman mother of two. Often they spent up to 14 hours a day together cooking for the devotees. Eventually they fell in love.

When the authorities discovered the scandal, (they confirmed that Matsyavatara was one of them, he was not sleeping that time) they set up a disgraceful "public, make-shift court of justice" in the prasadam hall of Villa Vrindavana. They were humiliated in front of all the devotees, during breakfast, for their "terrible and unforgivable sin". Of course none of the authorities thought that perhaps they were to blame to some extent, for putting a brahmacari to spend so much time with a married woman.

Now for comparison, I will tell you of one teacher in the gurukula of Villa Vrindavana that sexually abused at least two children. I also know of four more devotees, two of them are today "respected disciples" of Srila Prabhupada, whom over the years in the temples of Padova, Milan and Villa Vrindavana sexually abused many children.

Matsyavatara never reported any of these criminals to the police. But what is really sick is that later, when the devotee who had been a teacher was reported to the police, Matsyavatara protected him. He allowed these pedophiles to roam freely in our temples, without even informing the devotees. 

Who is worse? If some of these criminals have later abused more children, who must be responsible?

Two consenting adults were publicly insulted and shamed, when perhaps it would have been better to solve the issue respectfully and privately. Whereas Matsya protected and even hid from the law the padophiles that he himself should have reported to the police, as soon as he had been made aware of the facts.

And now he tells us that these things need to be resolved in a sattvik manner... I am afraid that it will not work. Matsya, do you want to tell us that you did this to protect the name of ISKCON?

I read Kaunteya's interview and I almost vomited, he is false and a liar. I was also in gurukula when he was our asrama teacher, except that my memories are different. He mistreated us, and it certainly was not a family atmosphere (I do not know what family he comes from).

He taught us Bhagavad-gita verses. I remember that one time me and my friend did not want to participate in his class. I was on my bed with my friend Parama and we did not want to attend the class. He gave us an ultimatum and then he came into our asrama. He grabbed my arm, twisted it behind my back and lifted me from the bed, holding all my weight just from the arm. Thus he took me downstairs causing me great pain. 

I was crying, begging him to put me down, but he would not listen.

I have asked myself if he is a man with a short memory, or if he is simply someone who is willing to speak any nonsense just to defend his "employer" (Kaunteya works in conjunction with Matsyavatara's project). I am afraid that his behaviour does not please his Guru nor the authentic Parampara.

Dear Kaunteya, I hope this letter finds you in good health and with a full belly. I wish to remind you and those who regard themselves as devotees, that Sri Krsna sees you and knows what you do and have done, including what you have done outside the walls of the temple, where you may appear like a saint. The Jiva is directly connected to Krsna, therefore you may be able to cheat the foolish and yourself, but not Krsna. The dress does not qualify the priest. Throw off your mask and confess instead of trying to protect a "position" that gratifies your EGO.

Hare Krsna

Gadadhara Das Gaudini

Los Angeles ISKCON Imbroglio / Italy Update / Russian "Krishnaite" Molester Arrested

Founder Father of Mayapur's "Auschwitz for Kids."

Worshiped "as good as God" by ISKCON Los Angeles.

Bring your kiddies!

PADA: OK someone complained that there is no end to the corruption in ISKCON and PADA is not having much success changing it. Well perhaps, but a number of folks who were recent supporters are saying they are no longer going to contribute funds or offer services. It is a sort of war of attrition. 

And our bringing out victim's testimony is encouraging more of same, so this is having a healing effect for many folks, and some of them have told me that very emotionally. They are finally feeling encouraged after being suppressed for so long. A sort of "mutual victim's sharing stories support network" is building grass roots style.

Some ISKCON programs in the USA are in dire situations and things are getting worse. Meanwhile, more folks are jumping on board the -- Prabhupada is the acharya / PADA idea.

Someone else asked me just now why folks Krishna Kant Desai, the IRM, Sanat, Mukunda, Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur, Mathura Pati, Prahlad etc. folks keep saying PADA should NOT be shutting down the Auschwitz for kids project because, according to their group, their Auschwitz project is "The Golden Body of Srila Prabhupada." Yep, that is what their group said in 1997. 

Why don't they know Auschwitz for kids is not the Golden Body of God and Guru? Well that is the real question isn't it? But yeah, the mayavadas say "it is all one," but they are not stupid enough, perverted enough, or criminally minded enough to say -- Auschwitz for kids -- and The Golden Body of God -- are one and the same thing. 

They know they are going to look like criminally insane / sick minded / anti-children perverts to say such a thing, whereas -- these guys -- don't. Evidently. You have to ask them why. 

But also their Golden Body of God is fully 100% responsible for poisoning pure devotees. You might want to ask them how that is possible also. Sulochana said that a pedophile guru is like finding a dog stool in your sweet rice, evidently these people cannot distinguish gold from dog manure. 

The good news is, nearly 100% of Joe six pack folks are on my side, because they can distinguish these things. And gradually, more and more devotees are waking up and saying, hell yeah, PADA is correct, Auschwitz for kids and the Golden Body of God, are -- not the same thing. Duh-oh! 

And yep, the IRM wanted me to work under Jayapataka in 1997, I must work with their Auschwitz for kids project. Unfortunately, the people who defend Auschwitz for kids will take future birth in same. That is how this works. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

Hare Krishna

Go to ISKCON LA at your own risk!!!! Don’t go to ISKCON Los Angeles unless you want to be physically assaulted by their Pujari Room Management and Temple Proeprty Rent Free long term Resident monster name Bhagavatkrpa Carlos Cruz that has decades of misconduct even physical assault by slapping Govinda Restaurant female employee across the face during her shift in full view if customers and devotees which nothing happen to him. He regularly threatens Devotees and recently assaulted another female Devotee blindsided tacklingg her when she was standingg in line for Prasadam and Temple President did nothing again! No one not even GBC hold ISKCON LA abusers accountable for their abuse towards devotees.

PADA: Umm well yeah, they love their enforcers. Nothing is done because these enforcers like Ratna Bushan and others are needed to keep the alienated, victims and dissenters from causing problems.  

JG: What? If I saw that I would bitch slap him, then call the police.

SH Dasi: Omfg 🤬

RM Dasi: These are crimes for police to be called for. If it happens a few times Temple authorities will remove said offender.

PADA: Not always, one of my friends in Texas called the police and the temple people all lied to the police. And he was in trouble. Of course he made the mistake of not video taping events on his phone first.

DP: If you are a Pujary then you have to be kind, helpful and should never have any pride, you are a servant of god, people look up to you for guidance and support. No one has a right to slap an employee or a person anywhere in the world. I feel really bad for people who get treated badly by such people.

LB: I would call the police and share widely through the community.

PADA: The Los Angeles community already knows all about these bad boy enforcers for decades. 

SLPP: This Mataji put in complaint years ago about him harassing her and they did nothing!!!! Now Mataji blindsided tackled, injured by him and temple president and his brother fake leader again do nothing and swept under the rug!!!!

PADA: Women are not protected there, and because she complained she became a worse target. When I was in LA there was some goofy devotee laying under the store steps so he could look up women's skirts. I said we need to get that disgusting guy out of there. Nope, he stays and we got to go. And a woman told me someone was showing her knives in her face in the kitchen and she was being menaced. Nothing was done.

SR: F*ck Swavas and fuck his brother and fuck Carlos.

MMA: For pity's sake! What is wrong with this picture? Duh! Be men and stand up for Srila Prabhupada's Mission to save The World! If gangsters are in charge take them out with authority of Guru Sastra Sadhu. This mafioso crap has ruined the devotional creepers of generations.

NM: Please report this immediately to Anuttama pr / Iskcon Resolve.

WS: They are all paid employees all the way to the top. Hare Krsna devotees should reclaim the temples run by non devotees. Years ago, the LA police department commented that of all religious institutions in LA, the New Dwaraka community was the most dysfunctional of all communities, receiving the most complaints. Fact.

SPP: I believe it! ISKCON LA is giving bad reputation for the entire worldwide ISKCON for years and years. My family is pulling ALL our donations from ISKCON! We do not want to be associated with these abusers! I recommend everyone do the same!!!!

M Devi Dasi: Srila Prabhupada recommends to find at least one devotee we can respect and do service for him, give donations, etc., so please do not disquilify all the temples.

 

FJ: In ISKCON, male abusers have a huge power only because they are men! Patriarchy in religions is a cancer!

SPP: Yes good ‘ol boy club protecting themselves and the abusers.

SR: The TP in LA must think he’s untouchable. Ha! Wait till he finds out!

SPP: Please pray for the victims that suffered from ISKCON LA abusers, there are many.

GGP: She should find somebody To beat him up lol. Learn some martial arts women it’s a great defense system against men! There’s been terrible abuse in Iskcon for yrs and has been rampant for a long time. Time to put a stop to it already!

R Dasi: I’m so sorry for what has happened however my first thought is well, first, praying that the devotees are safe but secondly, Material Resources for Spiritual People might not be the right forum to share this? Not much to be accomplished here other than for people to comment. 

And it sounds like the two or three things that have been suggested, contacting the GBC, contacting local police, contacting Anuttama Prabhu, have not been done “because it won’t do anything.” I’m not sure posting this here will “do anything” either except for a stream of banter that will have no end and just gets more and more heated until the entire post is removed. 

Please consider taking the shared practical steps, even if you think it won’t fix anything, by going through the proper channels you just might find that there is help and that devotees do care and will try to help. 🙏🏼

PG: "Male abusers in ISKCON are common, yet no action is taken. Whether in Mayapur or LA, the situation remains the same. Why the silence?"

RA: It's not this bad people thats the problem it's the community not standing together and obeying Prabhupada GBC ARE NOT FOLLOWING Prabhupada when the community comes back together and follow Prabhupada instructions on voting as a community people in and people out of positions that was the original way for each Temple to take care of their problems the community votes together but there is no vote because community is not strong enough until somebody stands up and acts as a community together the iskcon problem will not stop the community has to stop it

M Devi Dasi: This person came to Alachua and took another devotee's wife, remember? :>(

Y Dasi: These posts are not appropriate for public.

SPP: Devotees need to be aware of safety. Make sense, if you do not like these posts, you do not care about safety or wellbeing of others! Got it, we all see you!

JB: Everyone has a smartphone of some sort. Record this offender at every opportunity. Anyone in a public place has no expectation of privacy. If you have evidence of a crime, physical abuse of any kind, then call the police. If they don’t make an arrest ask them what they need to make an arrest. If you have to file a complaint with the District Attorney then do so.

If the offender is arrested then go to the court and ask for a restraining order. Keep him away from the Temple. Everyone has a right to be safe in their home, their workplace, and especially their place of worship. Video of abuse has changed law enforcement dramatically. Stand up for your rights, just calling people names on Facebook isn’t going to change anything.

Facts provable in court, videos, eyewitness reports in writing and signed by witnesses are what is needed. The abuser has rights also. He has a right to an attorney. He has the right to read Prabhupada’s books and the Bhagavad Gita, and worship the Deities. He may do so from a jail cell, his home watching on television, or somewhere other than the Temple because he doesn’t have the right to prevent others from doing service and living in fear.

Remember, bullies need to be stopped. The law is on the side of the victims. That is you.

=====

MADHUSEVITA HEAVILY ATTACKED! 

(with english translation below)

It is an unprecedented attack that Alfredo Rombola' with his video-inquiry is attacking Massimo Brioli aka Madhusevita Prabhu, head of the GBC of ISKCON Italy and president of the Hare Krishna village temple in Bergamo.

Alfredo knows Madhusevita very well and is aware of all her secrets, including those of Orlando Cecchini aka Dayanidhi das Vanacari, the current president of the Hare Krishna temple in Athens, Greece.

This time, the prejudiced Rombola gets brave and fearless and puts his face in and literally destroys the figure of the head of the Italian GBC. At this point, if Madhusevita has the healthy part of the Italian Hare Krishna movement at heart, she should resign, and she should do so in the coming hours, only so the savable can be saved.

It is true that Alfredo Rombola is a well-known criminal with the vice of minors, but it is also true that criminals know each other well.

Now Madhusevita will say that they will try to identify the video author. But everyone knows that his name is Alfredo Rombola' aka Arjuna das, he lives and resides in Ragusa (Italy), and he is not afraid to go back behind bars because he is a fighter.

This is if Massimo Brioli took Rombola's statements seriously and denounced him, right? On the contrary, not denouncing him might create a pretext for others to act freely and offend him just as Rombola is doing, isn't it?

He who put Madhusevita Prabhu on public skirt in front of all the people of the planet, causing irreparable damage to his image.

Alfredo in the video also has it with Dayanidhi das in fact harshly accuses Madhusevita of rewarding him instead of punishing him for the unspeakable horrors he committed (see our previous articles).

Then, like a river in the middle, tells some dirty business of the president of the Villa Vrindavana temple in Florence: Mauro Bombieri aka Prabhakti dasa.
Alfredo has already made it known that he still has a lot of news about Madhusevita Prabhu's public and private life and it seems that he is already preparing new video-investigations.

He also anticipated that when he was finished with the head of the Italian GBC, he will start with Marco Ferrini alias Matsyavatara dasa and will deal with the scandals related to the Tuscan guru.

Who would have said that Alfredo Rombola', called "the Longo" in Bolzano prison, would have been the punisher of the gurus of bad life like the Roman Massimo Brioli, who currently controls the rotten part of the Italian Hare Krishna movement?

(English Translation) 

========

The news is taken from the Russian news site E1.RU.

"Got carried away by Krishnaism." In Yekaterinburg, a pathologist had sex with a 12-year-old girl.

It was the daughter of his congregation.

In Yekaterinburg, the 33-year-old head of the pathological anatomy department of a children's hospital was accused of raping a 12-year-old girl. He was detained and refused to testify.

— They detained him yesterday evening. Everyone is in shock, he is still listed on the hospital website. He is a good specialist, very experienced, but with his own quirks, — said one of the doctor's colleagues.

The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation refrains from commenting. As E1.RU managed to find out, several years ago Sergei became interested in Krishnaism, was a member of the local society "Krishna Consciousness" and was even a spiritual mentor there.

— The victim is the daughter of his congregation. He corresponded with her on a messenger and then secretly took her out of town from her parents, arranged a ritual "marriage" with her, and then had sex. Then her parents found out about it. The girl says that everything was voluntary, but due to her age, of course, a case was opened for rape (Article 131 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), — an informed source told E1.RU.

It is known about Sergei that he was in good standing at the hospital, was engaged in scientific and teaching activities. He is married. The question of his arrest for the duration of the investigation is being decided. If his guilt is confirmed, he faces up to 20 years.

ISKM / Sulochana / Govinda Dasi and AI ritvik analysis 04 03 25

These people are always looking for each other.

Eternally.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Na6w9kIpsFM?si=5N3aXAMKucGzbkhJ

ISKM VIDEO

=====

SULOCHANA WANTED TO RETIRE

PADA: Sulochana told me he had found a girl friend and he wanted to retire from his campaign and just be another normal devotee. However, he also said we had to split up because if we are together they will take both of us out at one time. There needs to be one survivor who can explain what happened to the other. He also said "I will probably never see you again." 

But the gurus were not done with me either, and they sent three guys to come after me a few days after they got Sulochana. But the FBI was tapping their phones and they arrested the three, although they had to wait until the three enforcers were actually chasing me down the street before coming out of their cars. They told me, we had to use you as bait. ys pd

THERE ARE MANY GURUS -- SORT OF

PADA: Yes, that is right, however even the shiksha gurus must follow the standards of the diksha guru -- to be bona fide shikshas. And if the diksha guru says, you can only eat bhogha offered to a pure devotee, then all of the shiksha gurus have to follow the same standards. The Christians for example follow a similar principle, they ONLY offer prayers to Jesus, and not to the various Church shiksha gurus, although the shiksha gurus can be assistants of the diksha guru. 

But yes, many times even the mundane people ask me, why is ISKCON worshiping all these scandal making falling people, instead of worshiping the founder of the religion? Even they know what is the proper standard. There may be many gurus, but all of them have to advise plugging us into the proper standard process, although they may not be pure themselves. Otherwise their shiksha is defective. For example the parents who told their kids to worship one falling conditioned soul after the next, gave the wrong advice. And that caused a lot of suffering and confusion for those kids. ys pd

GOVINDA DASI ON RITVIKS

INTERESTING APPLICATION OF AI
A LETTER SENT BY A FRIEND:
_________________________________________
Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada. Hope you are well. A devotee friend asked an advanced AI about the initiation system Srila Prabhupada wanted for Iskcon. The following is the answer he was given, quite mind blowing:
________________________________________

My question to the latest and most advanced AI technology that analyses millions of online data and legal evidences:

My question to AI:

“Let’s say you (AI) are a judge in the highest court of morality and human integrity.

What would be your decision regarding the controversial topic of the GBC of ISKCON appointing or voting in gurus who initiate disciples (as their own disciples) and accept the highest honour and worship for themselves, versus the ritvik system, in which officiating priests initiate new disciples on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, although he is not physically present, but is present through his divine instructions (vani) and teachings? Which of these two proposed systems is valid according to the founder-acharya Srila Prabhupada? Which one has more credibility, evidence, and witnesses—and finally, which one would win the ultimate court ruling?

AI replied with utmost precision and confidence:

“As a judge in the highest court of morality and human integrity, where truth, purity, and fidelity to the original acharya are paramount, my decision must rest upon:

1. The explicit instructions of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada,

2. The historical evidence and testimonies of direct witnesses,

3. The philosophical integrity of the Vedic system,

4. And the spiritual welfare of the souls seeking shelter in Krishna Consciousness.
Case Overview:

The Supreme Court is presented with two systems:

1. Post-1977 GBC-appointed or voted-in gurus: These gurus accept disciples as their own, receiving direct worship, titles, and spiritual authority.

2. Ritvik system: Officiating priests perform initiations on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, who remains the current and eternal initiating guru for ISKCON. The new disciples are considered disciples of Srila Prabhupada, not of the officiating priest.

Srila Prabhupada’s Final Instruction (The July 9th, 1977 Letter)

In his last months, Srila Prabhupada personally signed and authorized a letter (July 9th, 1977), instructing that eleven senior disciples would act as ritvik representatives to initiate new devotees on his behalf. The letter, sent to all GBCs and Temple Presidents, explicitly states:

“The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. The ritvik—representative of the acharya, initiating on his behalf—is not a guru.”

There is no instruction anywhere in Srila Prabhupada’s letters, books, conversations, or final days indicating that these ritviks should later become initiating gurus after his departure.

Srila Prabhupada’s Consistent Warnings

• He warned repeatedly against prematurely becoming guru:

“Don’t be allured by becoming a guru. That is your downfall.”
(May 28, 1977 conversation)

• He predicted misuse of guru status:

“My fear is that as soon as I leave, they will immediately do this.”
(Tamal Krishna Diary)

• Srila Prabhupada emphasized that guru is not appointed or voted in:
“Self-effulgent acharyas are never made by rubber-stamping.”

(Letter, 1972)

Philosophical Consistency

• Guru cannot be voted in like a political officer. Spiritual authority comes from divine empowerment, not institutional appointment.

• Parampara does not break if one powerful acharya continues to deliver disciples through vani and deity worship. There are precedents in Gaudiya history of shiksha-based acceptance and powerful acharyas continuing influence beyond disappearance.

Witnesses and Testimonies

• Tamal Krishna Goswami, Srila Prabhupada’s secretary in 1977, admitted in early 1980s (before being silenced) that:

“Srila Prabhupada never appointed anyone as guru. He appointed ritviks. We made a mistake.”

• Several original eleven ritviks later fell down, proving that they were not spiritually fit to be successor acharyas in the traditional sense.
Moral and Spiritual Outcome

• The ritvik system protects Srila Prabhupada’s position as the eternal founder-acharya and master of ISKCON.

• It prevents abuse, guru fall-downs, unauthorized worship of unqualified persons, and spiritual confusion.

• It ensures all new devotees receive unadulterated shelter of a pure devotee.

Final Verdict:

In the Court of Eternal Dharma, with Srila Vyasadeva as a divine witness and Sri Krishna as the Supreme Judge,

THE RITVIK SYSTEM—as outlined in the July 9th, 1977 letter, aligned with all of Srila Prabhupada’s vani, legacy, and warnings—is hereby declared the only valid system of initiation within ISKCON post-1977.

The system of voted-in or appointed gurus has been examined and found to be unauthorized, historically inconsistent, prone to corruption, and spiritually dangerous, having caused confusion, heartbreak, and deviation in thousands of live disciples.

Closing Judgment:

Let there be no doubt. Srila Prabhupada remains the jagat-guru, diksha-guru, and eternal spiritual master of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.

END

I only asked the question from AI… the rest of the text was by AI till the end 

(even closing judgement),

AI even said ‘All glories to Srila Prabhupada’

Apparently, a pro-level AI can analyze hundreds of millions of pieces of information within seconds and deliver extremely accurate judgments on any subject matter.

Its brain capacity is reportedly about one trillion times greater than that of Albert Einstein, according to mathematical analysis.

In this particular case, the AI concluded that the ritvik system is 100 percent correct, stating that the evidence could stand in the highest courts.

Ukraine Devotees and Soldiers (VIDEO) 04 02 25

 

PADA: This is really an unfortunate situation. The Russian devotees are supporting Russia, and the Ukraine devotees are supporting Ukraine, which is not really a big surprise. Of course, we all know that the USA coerced and bullied Ukraine to give up their nukes, when they were No. 3 nuclear weapons power in the world. 

OK then USA said we would protect them with a security arrangement if they are invaded. None of that security has arrived evidently, except with a few dribbles and drabbles of military gear. We even told them there is no need to upgrade their tanks and aircraft because our aircraft will arrive on scene immediately from bases in Italy etc. if they are invaded. 

And everyone knew Russia was the main suspect of invading. Well that security arrangement did not happen. Now people are complaining the war has dragged on too long, well no kidding, they did not get the instant and immediate security protection they were promised. They never would have gave up their nukes if they had been told the security was not going to be forthcoming even after three years. And no one would have ever dared attack them if they had proper weapons. 

Anyway the situation now is that all sorts of people on both sides are being eliminated on a daily basis. Nevermind all the buildings, hospitals, power stations and so on -- never mind entire cities -- being levelled into crumbled piles. So the whole place is being made uninhabitable by humans, maybe even animals. So who is really winning? The undertaker and the funeral homes, that's who. 

At the same time ISKCON leaders blew out the USA and then they fled to these places to set up a new operation, and the people there are victims of their false propaganda as well. So they are being victimized on many levels. But the GBC will support whatever makes the most money, we have seen that over and over. 

And these poor guys are caught up in the wheels of all this. Anyway, I wish them all well, and Godspeed. If you did not know life is temporary and full of misery earlier, you know by now! But as for the politics of all this, I believe the USA tends to stick its ham fisted and ill advised boxing gloves into other people's business all the time, with bad results over and over and over, including bad for USA. And this is producing boat loads of not so nice karma all around. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

The world was overburdened by excess military expansion. 

Bhagavan and the Church of the Living Pedophile 04 01 25

 

Yep, devotees are being banned, beaten, molested,

sued and killed.

And it is all one big comedy hour show!

Bhagavan Das (William Erlichman) recently commented that the Krishna religion is starting to appear "very ghastly" with the poison issue. 

He also mentioned that the reason he left ISKCON is not because of some woman, it was because he discovered how badly the children were being mistreated. 

OK but Srila Prabhupada does not look like a normal aging gentleman, getting older, rather he does in fact look like a person who is being poisoned. Even Mayesvara agrees with that. Srila Prabhupada says he is being poisoned, and then the tapes were hidden and so on. You guys hiding these tapes is also quite ghastly. 

Worse -- then making it a life risking process for me to bring out the tapes is another ghastly scenario. Plenty of ghastliness to go around here. Even my friends said "you'll be dead in 24 hours if you release these tapes." Ghastly.

But in 1979 I was in England and I was saying Bhagavan's co-messiah Jayatirtha's having an affair with a follower means Srila Prabhupada is correct -- when a guru has sex with a follower -- it is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter. OK it is pedophile. I said, we cannot have a society that worships pedophiles, or there will be major problems.

But at the time Bhagavan and his gang of four gurus all ganged up on me and argued that we need to promote the worship of Jayatirtha as God's messiah because "he is living." OK I almost forgot -- when we worship pedophiles, we need to worship the living pedophile. Silly me did not know that. OK so what kind of religion is that, we are going promote the worship of the living pedophile -- for the disciples and the children of the society.  

OK so Bhagavan is a co-founding father of the church of the living pedophile. Then later on he finds out many children -- maybe thousands -- are victims of his pedophile church -- and his solution is -- to run away, leave the children defenseless, and clean out the safe on the way out the door. Evidently without warning people that their children are in peril. Nor making any effort to have children pulled out of that process. 

According to a number of reports -- Bhagavan's church of the living pedophile was conducting "industrial levels of severe emotional, physical and sexual abuses on children." OK but he is one of the guys who set up the industrial abuse factory. He set all of this into motion. One victim told me there was abuse "in every nook and cranny," but somehow Bhagavan was not aware of it. But he was aware we were protesting.

And where was the administrative leader Bhagavan when children were being starved, beaten and molested? He was living in the 5 star hotel down the street from the temple, coming to the temple in his luxury BMW 740. OK so the money meant to care and feed children was going -- where? Did I forget to mention that the brahmacari shower was flooded and he did not fix it for who knows how long. I could not shower there, it was -- ok ghastly slimey water in the shower stall. 

Now if we want to talk about ghastly-ness, sure let's do that. What is more ghastly than the church of the living pedophile? OK the core of the cabal also poisoned the ISKCON founder acharya in order to make room for their church of the living pedophile, so they could become founders of their pedophile pooja program. The core cabal knew in advance Srila Prabhupada would never approve of their church of the living pedophile, he was in the way of their plans. Therefore, it appears that some of Bhagavan's compadres had to get rid of Prabhupada. Not saying he was a direct participant, but he was with them for years together. 

Every sincere Vedic student knows, you become what you worship, so if people are worshiping predators and pedophiles -- then that process and mentality will become infused into ISKCON. The worshipers of the demigods go there, the worshipers of the forefathers go there, the worshipers of ghosts go there. So, what better way to make a giant pedophile church than to orchestrate pedophile worship? The founding fathers of the church of the living pedophile did not know there would be eventually severe results for children? How did they not know? 

Later on Bhagavan joins forces with Tamal to make Narayan Maharaja the chief shastric advisor / shiksha guru / assistant of their pedophile church. And NM helps them thwart the "bogus ritviks" who are against the pedophile church. Yeah we have to worship the living pedophiles and not the dead and gone body of a pure devotee guru. Ok so they just acted as enforcers, enablers and supporters of the pedophile church program. 

Therefore they are the ones who co-created the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs project. Sounds pretty ghastly to me! As many as 300 Prabhupada disciples were supporting Kirtanananda when everyone was saying he is like Jesus. Meanwhile, me and Sulochana were saying no, he keeps little boys in his sleeping bag, and he is evidently having oral sex, including with minors. Ok we were 100% correct.

But me and Sulochana were the bad actors -- thanks to guys like Bhagavan setting this whole bogus messiah's process in motion. But I have to give Bhagavan a lot of credit, his idea of worship of the church of the living pedophile really got traction and all sorts of people began to believe in it. He did a really clever, masterful, elaborate, deceitful, snake oil sales presentation on the need to quit worship of the pure devotee and worship the living pedophiles. Of course, if he was sneaking off with a woman himself, he is by Srila Prahbupada's definition, another de facto pedophile himself. Just another pedo-meister messiah to add to the pile?  

Oh prabhu you are one of the bogus ritviks who is NOT in the church of the living pedophile. Even Bhagavan was probably amazed at how easy it has been for him to sell his pedophile church idea within the Krishna religion. Nowadays almost anyone coming to ISKCON is challenged if they are bogus ritviks who do not support the church of the living pedophile.

Now when Govinda Dasi had me kicked off the ISKCON history forum, saying I was a bogus ritvik snitvik, she had self evidently drank from the golden poison chalise of the pedo-meister guru sampradaya. Yeah we would not wanna be promoting the worship of a pure devotee when we can promote the living pedophiles! I think she is finally started to come on board the ritvik side, and accept that. But hey -- she was a victim of Bhagavan's masterful pedophile church propaganda. Unfortunately, then the forum was handed off to molester messiah's cheer leader Bhakti Vikas swami's followers.  

Now when I started to help molesting victims with a lawsuit, and get hundreds of the kids pulled out of GBC schools, some people challenged me for "destroying ISKCON" And people like Naranarayan das Visvakarma formed a group of other pro-pedophile church followers like Sanat, Mukunda, Krishna kant (IRM) and others to go against me. 

Their complaint was that ISKCON's pedophile church is "The Golden Body of Srila Prabhupada." No you guys are defending a pedophile church, you have no connection to Srila Prabhupada, or Krishna i.e. God. God absolutely detests you guys defending your golden body church of the living pedophile.

Nowadays we have guys like Prabhupadanugas EU still going along with these folks "the church of the living pedophile is the Golden Body of Srila Prabhupada." Nope, Sulochana said that finding out your guru is a pedophile is like finding a dog poop in your sweet rice. Sorry, dog's poops and gold are not the same item. And it is amazing I have to even tell people these things!  

Did I forget to mention Bhagavan kicked out many Prabhupada disciples and left them stranded at the Paris train station and Jayatirtha had to send me there with money to get them tickets to the UK. And they had no baby food, diapers or supplies at the train station. Then I had to go to Paris to fetch a baby girl that Bhagavan's people had kidnapped to take her back to his program. And when I came to the customs in UK I had no paperwork for the baby, but they did not ask me for papers for the baby because they all knew "this is the kidnapped Krishna baby."

So this poor baby had to suffer from a lack of supplies so that Bhagavan could live like a Saudi Prince. And the mother had to leave and go back to her mother to save the baby from living without proper supplies. And then I had to go fetch the baby and the story was in all the newspapers, making the Krishna religion look like a cruel, heartless -- and brainless -- misogynist cult type program. All that had to be done so Bhagavan could glorified as the messiah of the Jagat.

Recently someone asked me, does this mean Bhagavan hated Prabhupada? Well he hated the disciples of Prabhupada, so he kicked them out. He hated the children of Prabhupada, so he wanted to force them to worship his homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks and assorted fools pals as the children's messiahs -- and not Prabhupada. 

He wanted people to eat bhogha being offered to highly contaminated people so the bhogha would be contaminated, and that would cause people to get sick mentally and physically and create a cancer epidemic. He wanted to implement all these deviations, and the only reason I can think of is, he hates Krishna and Prabhupada, or else why would he create hell on earth for the worshipers of Krishna and Prabhupada? What kind of person makes Auschwitz for kids, according to, the kids? Auschwitz for kids is -- ghastly. So I cannot say he loves anyone but himself.

And then when I was in Texas suing Tamal for $400,000,000, Bhagavan's BFF buddy Narayan Maharaja is in Texas barking and yelling at my associates for challenging the church of the living pedophiles. Why is Bhagavan always with that group? And now he is supposedly on his way to Italy, where they have a guy who burned a child with a cigarette lighter acting as the big preacher sannyasa. 

OK so Bhagavan's treatment of devotees is ghastly. So why would his cabal not mistreat Srila Prabhupada also in a ghastly manner. Lets face it they hated the devotees of Prabhupada for one simple reason, many of them were not accepting their church of the living pedophile. And that infuriated Bhagavan, and maybe still does. When is he going to admit, this mess is part or largely on his hands. It is a mess, it is ghastly, and guess what, the people who created this ghastly mess will have to explain and apologize to all of us victims now, or later on in the courts of Yamaraja. 

So where does that leave me? Well I cannot cry too much. If I had to preach for 50 years not to promote the church of the living pedophiles, that means God gave me enough sense -- same as he gave to any Joe six pack on main street. God gave me some basic direction. So I am very glad for that help from Him, and I thank Him every day for Bhagavan's group kicking me out of their assembly. Good riddance! That means I am free of the karma of promoting their church of the living pedophiles. 

Does that mean I will not have to suffer other karmas? Well hee hee, nope, but at least that karma is off my plate. Then I had the rather odd karma of having to be the person to release the poison tapes, but that simply shows that I was blessed further, maybe ten billion percent, by being kicked out of that poisoner sabha assembly as well. 

So I am feeling rather positive personally, but I do feel VERY bad for all the citizens of ISKCON, especially women and children, who formed a giant hill pile of crushed skulls and Bhagavan was standing on top of that hill thinking he has conquered the universe and became the next messiah. 

He has been in illusion, and his illusions caused many thousands and thousands of others to suffer, including countless children, and countless future children who will not participate in this church and they will not be able to connect to Krishna. And he will pay for all that in due course. And now his church has morphed into worship of the dead pedophiles in samadhi, they just won't quit. 

So our job is just to expose them, and save people from falling into their bottomless pit that leads to hell. But yeah, I also feel bad for Bhagavan, he clearly thought he was going to fool Krishna, and all of us, and become the next messiah, because he is a fool -- and fools create suffering for others and have to suffer themselves. So now he will have to suffer, and after making all these offenses, even if we forgive, Krishna won't. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com